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I don't know what this means, but we better start learning to program in Dash
Also TL;DR

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What will we say at Google IO about Dash/Harmony?
Google deeply cares about the web. We care about making the web
incrementally better today (Harmony) as well as making it substantially
better in the future (Dash). Large scale applications should probably build
on Dash; smaller-scale developers might want to stick with Harmony until the
Dash standard gains ubiquity. Given that Dash is such a big bet we are
likely to spend much more time at IO on Dash, though of course we will spend
some time on the leadership position Google is taking in Harmony.

Edited by KipH - 10/10/11 at 7:44am
 
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One more link about it: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20...=2547-1_3-0-20
 
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Sooo It's an alternative to JS? hmm this could get interesting.
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What does dart have to do with dash?? OP did you just mislead me and made me embarass myself on IRC?
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An dart email about the dash program was leaked. But after that there have been a few follow ups to it. Sorry it that was confusing, I would probably leave out the dart part now that I have read more.

Yes, it is a javascript like programming language!
http://www.dartlang.org/docs/spec/dartLangSpec.pdf
http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2011/...tured-web.html
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20...=2547-1_3-0-20
Edited by KipH - 10/10/11 at 7:34am
 
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Don't you mean a javascript like programming language? Java and JS are completely different.
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Yes, I do. Its all in the links. I learned Pascal, basic and a bit of Ada. I am getting too old for this stuff. Keep off my lawn!

Here is the full quote I was given:
Quote:
CNET this morning says that Google has just launched this language
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20...t-alternative/ as a javascript alternative

Thank you Google, it seems I wasn't alone with the feeling that we are building the next generation of the internet with one hand behind our back.

A quick look at the specs of DART make me exhale with a smile in my face:

http://www.dartlang.org/docs/spec/dartLangSpec.pdf

(Optionally) Typed Language
True Objects (Classes, Interfaces)
freaking Import statements
Generics (a tear of joy comes out of my right eye)

A core library with Collections (very similar to Java, Collection, Map, List, Set, Queue, Iterable, Hashset, Hashmap)


The only thing missing on it is being able to spawn other threads, it seems like it's all done on a single thread with message passing. They have something that sounds like a thread called "an Isolate"

I suppose this is the initiative of a group of engineers at Google that couldn't stand effing Javascript being the norm for the web, it's just ridiculous how cumbersome is to build competitive HTML5 apps forcing a language that wasn't meant for such things.

For now you can only run Dart on a VM, or by translating it to JavaScript (I know), I hope they're going to include some sort of runtime of it on Chrome and Firefox soon, otherwise I don't see the point.
 
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Originally Posted by Madman340 View Post
Don't you mean a javascript like programming language? Java and JS are completely different.
Ironically it looks more like Java than it does JS, with a little bit of C++. (you can actually have import statements!)

I likey. I'm not a fan of JS, to be honest. Especially now with all of these people running script blockers (and I can't blame them, there are pretty nasty malicious scripts out there).

The only reason I can even deal with JS anymore is because of some of the nicer frameworks like jQuery. I'll be excited to see what we can do with Dart.
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This looks like it could provide a solid alternative to Jquery by the looks of it. Cool.
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And then a ton of devices wont support it.
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