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Sounds like they are trying to lure people into getting the 4S.

Might work, I know people that get pretty dependent on software like Siri.
This is what I meant by Apple being Apple.
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1) Some users might mistake (App Store) Siri for (4S) Siri and think it's not so great, and it might get negative reviews. (As has been said by another forum member.)
2) Some users might download it on their current iPhone in order to test it and see if they want to buy the 4S for the feature or might download the App instead of upgrading. And it'll run like pff.
3) Some users might pass on the 4S and settle for (App Store) Siri and be unimpressed.
4) To add an exclusive "feature" to the iPhone 5 for marketing, and so those wanting to use Siri will need to give them more money for a new phone.
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There's something called product differentiation.

No-one seems to think that having window 7 home and professional should be exactly the same.

You buy W7 Pro if you need the features that come with it.
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There's something called product differentiation.

No-one seems to think that having window 7 home and professional should be exactly the same.

You buy W7 Pro if you need the features that come with it.
I do...but simply because I'm not sure what differences there really are anymore between them beyond the artificial RAM limit that Microsoft but in to create that product differentiation. Glad to see someone else has remembered their intro to marketing though.
     
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I don't know about any other iPhone 4 owners here, but I'm going to be pissed if Siri is 4S only. I'm not going out and slapping down another $500 for a phone just because of some software updates that my current phone can handle.
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I don't know about any other iPhone 4 owners here, but I'm going to be pissed if Siri is 4S only. I'm not going out and slapping down another $500 for a phone just because of some software updates that my current phone can handle.
You're pissed then. Hope for a jailbreak and pirate siri.

I think you could sell your iphone 4 and upgrade that way, tho. Apple did you a favor by continuing to sell the ip4, in that it will get all the updates and have a high resale value.
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You're pissed then. Hope for a jailbreak and pirate siri.

I think you could sell your iphone 4 and upgrade that way, tho. Apple did you a favor by continuing to sell the ip4, in that it will get all the updates and have a high resale value.
How is Apple doing him a favor by robbing him of the ability to use an App that can run on his phone? You're suggesting for him jailbreak it AND pirate Siri, and sell his phone, in order to upgrade to 4S. Shouldn't Apple just provide it in IOS 5?
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There are no other possibilities, that's the only reason.



Actually, it's planned obsolescence.

And yes, I actually do think MS should consolidate all the editions into one single edition, call it "Windows X" and sell it for $99, similar to how Apple does with OS X. MS have no competition in their demographic so they can get away with charging exorbitant prices for 20 million different editions of their OS differentiated by only a couple of features that nobody uses.
Apple can afford to sell the OS cheap because it is only supposed to run on their hardware which they charge quite a bit for. Microsoft doesn't sell you the PC, just the OS.

Planned obsolescence? What about the customers not buying a 4S that want to use it, it's not obsolete to them?

Sounds more like it was planned as another way to get people to upgrade. They should've just chose a different name for the Siri that is appearing on the 4S, then the products would remain unrelated, problem solved.
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How is Apple doing him a favor by robbing him of the ability to use an App that can run on his phone? You're suggesting for him jailbreak it AND pirate Siri, and sell his phone, in order to upgrade to 4S. Shouldn't Apple just provide it in IOS 5?
^This! Again that's why I could never buy an Apple device again (ipod 160GB) because I just don't trust them to not pull something like this. This is under the assumption (which I haven't seen proven wrong yet) that there is nothing differentiating the 4 and the 4s that wouldn't allow both Siri.
     
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^This! Again that's why I could never buy an Apple device again (ipod 160GB) because I just don't trust them to not pull something like this. This is under the assumption (which I haven't seen proven wrong yet) that there is nothing differentiating the 4 and the 4s that wouldn't allow both Siri.
I believe the version of Siri that was in the App Store doesn't have the same functionality that the 4S-only version will have, due to hardware requirements. However, the current version of Siri would still run fine for all non-4S users. The only valid issue here is that they have the same name, which is confusing, the fix is to change the name of one of the two, rather than just deleting one.
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