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Let me put it like this, do you ever fly anywhere?

If you are flying coach there is an awareness that 1st class passengers have it better.

They have more leg room, better pillows, faster boarding. All these things are desirable.

Yet just because 1st class exists and is desirable or feature filled, doesn't make flying coach obsolete.

Apple is running 3 tiers of phone.

1st class... 4s
coach ...... 4 (8gb only)
economy ... 3gs (8gb only)

They are all for sale NOW and all run iOS 5.

You seem to be mixing up the terms not as desirable with obsolete.

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I am not grasping at straws, you are failing to understand what I am saying.

You are using the term "planned obsolescence" like it is an immediate and sudden thing. The time it takes for something to become obsolete is irrelevant. It could be over years, it could be right away.

Simply put, every release of an iPhone, is another step forward in their plan for obsolescence. If they do not do things like making Siri exclusive to the newer phones, there is no incentive to upgrade. As it stands, for most people the hardware upgrades are simply not enough of a reason.

What dictates "obsolete" is in the eye of the beholder.

Semantics!
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I don't see why they are doing this, well I am never going to use any Apple products ever so I don't care.

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Let me put it like this, do you ever fly anywhere?

If you are flying coach there is an awareness that 1st class passengers have it better.

They have more leg room, better pillows, faster boarding. All these things are desirable.

Yet just because 1st class exists and is desirable or feature filled, doesn't make flying coach obsolete.

Apple is running 3 tiers of phone.

1st class... 4s
coach ...... 4 (8gb only)
economy ... 3gs (8gb only)

They are all for sale NOW and all run iOS 5.

You seem to be mixing up the terms not as desirable with obsolete.
This isn't like first class, coach and economy. They aren't offering three different tiers of iPhone. They are replacing the old one.

They don't continue making the iPhone 4, there are just stocks left over that are still selling. The 4S replaces the 4, just like the 3S replaced the 3, and just like the 5 is going to replace the 4S.

But honestly, it doesn't matter. You clearly don't think that Siri makes the old phones obsolete. That is because in your view, Siri is not a big enough deal to warrant a 4S the current model you own (if I owned an iPhone 4, I would tend to agree).

There are people out there who used Siri on a very regular basis, and may in fact rely on it. These people see their phones as now obsolete.

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What dictates "obsolete" is in the eye of the beholder.

Edited by SectorNine50 - 10/14/11 at 1:01pm
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Gosh darn, you're so full of misinformation. The oct 14, 2011 iphone 4 is all new inside, not seen before 10/14/2011. (world phone, 8gb only). $99 with contract.

The 3gs is likewise also a current model. Free with contract. and you can get it fully unlocked for $375, which is new in the US.

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom.../family/iphone


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This isn't like first class, coach and economy. They aren't offering three different tiers of iPhone. They are replacing the old one.

They don't continue making the iPhone 4, there are just stocks left over that are still selling. The 4S replaces the 4, just like the 3S replaced the 3, and just like the 5 is going to replace the 4S.
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Gosh darn, you're so full of misinformation. The oct 14, 2011 iphone 4 is all new inside, not seen before 10/14/2011. (world phone, 8gb only). $99 with contract.

The 3gs is likewise also a current model. Free with contract. and you can get it fully unlocked for $375, which is new in the US.

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom.../family/iphone
The Apple Store does not sell 3GS' to my knowledge. Like I said, the remaining stock gets sold at the phone retailers (ie. AT&T and Verizon). If I'm recalling correctly, they no longer produce 3GS'.

If you have proof that they are still building new 3GS', I'm happy to entertain it.

However, either way, the previous statement on relative obsolescence still stands true.

EDIT:
Looks like they are still building the 3GS specifically for AT&T:
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The iPhone 3GS was made available for pre-order on June 8, 2009 and released on June 19 in Canada, the United States, and 7 European countries, and on June 26 in Australia and the United Kingdom. Within the first weekend of its release, over one million iPhone 3GS's were sold. July and August 2009 saw the release of the iPhone 3GS internationally. After the iPhone 4 was announced, an 8 GB (Black only) iPhone 3GS was released which was made available at a reduced price. Apple's decision to continue selling the iPhone 3GS alongside the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 4S makes the 3GS the longest running produced iPhone hardware to date.

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Interesting, they did actually pick up a tiered system, I apologize!



I now see what you are saying, everything makes much more sense.

3GS on AT&T
4 8GB for Verizon and AT&T
and the current versions of the 4S.
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Well other than 3gs is for all gsm countries, you're learning!
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My apologies, what you were saying makes way more sense. It seemed like you were trying to twist my words initially, but I got ya now.
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I'll just leave this here, sometimes told you so just doesn't cut it.

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Don't get too hyped up over the video above. The skills required to do this eliminates it from the mainstream right now and Apple will do all they can to shut it down if it does become widely available. Good stuff from the team that created the video. Anything is possible if you just make it so...
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