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MSI GTX580 Twin Frozr II High Temps [Resolved]

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I finished my first build about a fortnight ago. Specs are in my sig. Nothing overclocked. I am worried about my GPU temperatures. I don't know my ambient in the room while doing the tests but I'm in Ireland in October and the window is open. The ambient is no more than high teens/20ºc

I was hitting 91ºc during the BF3 beta with everything maxed out at 1920x1200. The card idles at around 35ºc.

I was hitting over 100ºc with some tests in Furmark and 3Dmark2011 and got them down to the low 90's when I ran with the side panel off and a 120mm fan aimed at the card and changed the afterburner fan profile (40%@40ºc etc)

I figured, "this ain't right", and was going to get straight to the nitty gritty in this thread and ask about RMA'ing or re-doing the TIM with IC7 etc. However, then I read threads where some say the temps are normal, some say they are not. For all I know all they guys saying 90ºc is insane for a 580 Twin Frozr II who get 65-70ºc with theirs are running the 720p Furmark test with god knows what settings while I am running the 1080p test so no wonder my temps are high.

So can someone tell me what tests to run at what resolution and with what settings so that I am definately working from the same baseline as everyone else for my temperature comparisons.

I know I have work to do in modding my Corsair 600T case to improve airflow for these internally venting Video cards but am I right in thinking I can put case airflow issues aside for the moment as a cause of high GPU temps when I am running these tests with the side panel off with a 120mm blowing directly on the card and still getting what look like abnormal temps.
Edited by Calibos - 10/31/11 at 3:56am
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post #2 of 19
I'm on reference GTX 580 and mine are sandwiched as such and I'm getting 70-73c with fan running around 70% on my 1st GTX580, second running at 60-63c with 60% or so fan.



your GTX580 should have much better cooling than reference.

RMA time.
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That is hot tbh mate,

I would have to point it to thermal paste, well, actually thermal pads.

Since it's a new GPU, I would go with the RMA side of things rather than doing it yourself and voiding the warranty. However, if you don't want to go down that route, you'll need some thermal pads (not paste) to replace over the GPU.

I assume both your fans are running aren't they. I would also download MSI Afterburning and try setting your fan speed to something more reasonable. Try 50% and see what your on load temps are then.

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post #4 of 19
Had the same problems with an older 6970 Lightning. had 83 degrees at load at Furmark and 55 degrees idle.

Didnt feel right so I had it replaced, got the new one at 68 degrees Furmark, with 46 degrees idle.
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That is hot tbh mate,

I would have to point it to thermal paste, well, actually thermal pads.

Since it's a new GPU, I would go with the RMA side of things rather than doing it yourself and voiding the warranty. However, if you don't want to go down that route, you'll need some thermal pads (not paste) to replace over the GPU.

I assume both your fans are running aren't they. I would also download MSI Afterburning and try setting your fan speed to something more reasonable. Try 50% and see what your on load temps are then.

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Both fans are running and I was getting high 90's and 100ºc with default afterburner profile side panel on and no extra fan aimed at card. Side panel off, 120mm fan aimed at card and afterburner fan profile set to 40%-40º, 60%-60ºc, 100%-80ºc etc I dropped the temps to 91ºc for the 1080p benchmark on furmark.

Why thermal pads??

There is paste on it at the moment. In fact I can see more paste squeezed out on one side of the GPU/Heatsink interface than I would have thought was normal to put on a card in total in the first place if you get me. ie. if I scraped this squeezed out excess off, I am sure I could make a blob bigger than the size of a pea with it? Is a pea not the recommended amount for a GPU?

Again, can I confirm we are all on the same page with regard to the testing parametres. After making a custom afterburner fan profile and adding a 120mm fan blowing on the cards, with the furmark 1080p test I am getting 91ºc and with the 720p test I am getting mid to high 70's.
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post #6 of 19
This is why you use pads, Pads are much much better with GPU's. You always get the perfect amount every time

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post #7 of 19
I would agree that something doesn't seem right. I have a similar case, and the same graphics card, and also am in the UK with no heating on yet.

When playing an extended session of RAGE, which does a good job of maxing out the GPU use at nearly 100%, max GPU temp was 72C. I haven't run furmark with this configuration so can't give you temps on that to compare. Either way I can't see why you would be getting 80s let alone >90C.

Anyway I would imagine the twin frozr II cooler has a bad mount as the most likely answer but given it's relatively new, I would just RMA it myself.
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post #8 of 19
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My seemingly normal Idle temperatures of about 35ºc with an ambient < 20ºc are what has me wondering if talk of RMA'ing is premature. Thats why I really really need to ensure I am testing with the same settings/parametres as the rest of you guys. So can someone please tell me what benchmark with what settings at what res you guys are using so that we are comparing like with like.
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post #9 of 19
your card is getting too hot, no matter what settings/benchmarks/...

really, you should RMA it

lately more and more people complaining about their msi cards overheating, don't know what MSI is up to lately but nothing good from my point of view
post #10 of 19
RMA'd my Gtx 580 twin forzr II last week, was hitting 97C after 30 secs of BF3 beta.
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