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I am a scientist. I need a good bang-for-buck netbook for giving presentations. Mostly in scientific conferences, ocassional lecture, etc. I would use it also for e-mail and web browsing during trips. My budget is up to about 350 euros, but the sweet spot is somewhere around 250 euros / 300 $.

This will be not my only computer, just something cheap and light for travel. Tablets seem nice as well within that budget, but those I have looked at are not x86 compatible and I want to put windows on it.

What I want are
(*) Reasonably good screen (preferably not 1024x600 or smaller)
(*) Must be able to display PDF's and occasional video files without sweating with it too hard (lets say up to 1080p, have yet to see higher resolution projector in conference)
(*) Good battery life (for doing stuff in airports / in flight)
(*) Light - I prefer to travel with only hand baggage when able.
(*) RAM stick more or less reasonably accessible as I will be upgrading to 4 gig stick(s). I will also install Win 7 Pro on it (as I have few extra licenses for that).

So far I think I sort of like
Acer Aspire One 522 (1280x720 screen, AMD C-50 CPU, 1.25 kg) ~250€
Asus Eee PC 1215B (1366x768 screen, AMD C-50 CPU, 1.5 kg) ~310€
Samsung N100 (1024x600 screen, Atom N435, 1.25 kg) ~200€

I seem to kinda lean towards Acer 522 atm although the RAMis hard to get to (need to go thru keyboard for that), Asus 1215B is strong second in my preference list bcos of better screen (it's 12'') and easier acsess to RAM.


I would like to get some more suggestions for my purposes. Opinions about the listed netbooks are welcome as well. For example if they have some drawback or problem you have encountered with them.
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I have a samsung NC10 and Like it petty well Though one thing to watch out for is the screen on any net book is quite flimsy as that is another area they shave off size and weight. I have learned this fact the hard way as my nc10 now has a 1cm patch of damaged pixels as a result of being in a full backpack. Also the video playback with net books can be somewhat problematic at times. HTML 5 and H.264 it should play decently but most net book will have trouble with HD youtube videos and sometimes even SD flash videos. But most net books certainly have good battery life mine averages around 6.5 Hrs on a full charge and I have a friend who slightly under clocked his and managed a repeatable 20 Hrs on a single charge. As for your RAM issue most net books only have one ram slot and are thus limited to 2GB as most laptop sticks are only 2GB. But really there is not much of a need to go to 4GB or win 7 which is why most net books run XP because vista and 7 have too much overhead the intel atom is no power house of a processor.
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If you're strictly a Windows user and can't wait until 8 then I wouldn't get anything with less than a C-50/60 and 2 GBs of RAM. The N550+ ION combo is fine if you want to go that route but I don't think it's cheap enough.
     
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If you're strictly a Windows user and can't wait until 8 then I wouldn't get anything with less than a C-50/60 and 2 GBs of RAM. The N550+ ION combo is fine if you want to go that route but I don't think it's cheap enough.
That is good advise and I'll keep that in mind.

I'm not strictly Windows user, it's just that I'm not an "expert" in Linux and doing anything involving command line in Linux takes a while as I have to read help for that. I'm just more used to windows. Some programs I use are also easier for me to use in windows, for example, latex in the form of miktex + texniccenter.

I'm a bit supicious towards C-50 CPU's bcos of the relatively low working frequency. Now I am not planning to run Matlab (at least not regularly) on netbook and benchmarks are in the same ballpark as Atom CPU's so I'm hoping this will be adequate.
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That is good advise and I'll keep that in mind.

I'm not strictly Windows user, it's just that I'm not an "expert" in Linux and doing anything involving command line in Linux takes a while as I have to read help for that. I'm just more used to windows. Some programs I use are also easier for me to use in windows, for example, latex in the form of miktex + texniccenter.

I'm a bit supicious towards C-50 CPU's bcos of the relatively low working frequency. Now I am not planning to run Matlab (at least not regularly) on netbook and benchmarks are in the same ballpark as Atom CPU's so I'm hoping this will be adequate.
The thing with the C-50 is that it's just better overall than an Atom alone (at least until the 2000 series Atoms come out, then things might change).

As for Linux I'm by no means even close to the typical type of user there since I rarely use terminal (probably because I don't have much to fix anymore). I can understand though that finding similar programs to the ones you need can be difficult. I just put it out there since it can make the options for netbooks recommendations more open without me feeling like the person getting the recommendation will hate me.

However, if you can spend a bit more I do have an 11incher with a 330UM that I would recommend. It's about 350USD so I don't know how much that is in Euros.

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