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Copper has the same anti-microbial characteristics as silver, silver is just the best thermally conductive metal. Gold is just for bling, it's nowhere near as good as copper thermally.
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the game changes if you include a zinc anode to pick up the stray electrons that cause the disassociation we call corrosion. It also helps if you earth ground your loop to prevent electrolysis.
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the game changes if you include a zinc anode to pick up the stray electrons that cause the disassociation we call corrosion. It also helps if you earth ground your loop to prevent electrolysis.
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Copper has the same anti-microbial characteristics as silver, silver is just the best thermally conductive metal. Gold is just for bling, it's nowhere near as good as copper thermally.
This is technically mostly true, but with caveats. We're splitting hairs now, but here goes:

Copper does indeed also work as an anti-microbial, but it is a bit of a simplification to say it is interchangeable with silver in that capacity as not enough is understood about how either metal works in that regard. In any case, properly manufactured copper waterblocks are coated with a thin layer of shellac or similar sealant to prevent oxidation, which should keep free copper ions from doing their work on microbes. Any plating covers up the copper entirely, of course.

Also, silver is a lot more expensive than copper (much more expensive than it is better as a heat conductor) so it is impractical as a block material.

Silver is not used in PC watercooling loops for its thermal properties. Copper is not used in PC watercooling loops for its anti-microbial properties, but I suppose it would probably work to put in a raw copper killcoil instead of a silver one.
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This is technically mostly true, but with caveats. We're splitting hairs now, but here goes:

Copper does indeed also work as an anti-microbial, but it is a bit of a simplification to say it is interchangeable with silver in that capacity as not enough is understood about how either metal works in that regard. In any case, properly manufactured copper waterblocks are coated with a thin layer of shellac or similar sealant to prevent oxidation, which should keep free copper ions from doing their work on microbes. Any plating covers up the copper entirely, of course.

Also, silver is a lot more expensive than copper (much more expensive than it is better as a heat conductor) so it is impractical as a block material.

Silver is not used in PC watercooling loops for its thermal properties. Copper is not used in PC watercooling loops for its anti-microbial properties, but I suppose it would probably work to put in a raw copper killcoil instead of a silver one.
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This is technically mostly true, but with caveats. We're splitting hairs now, but here goes:

Copper does indeed also work as an anti-microbial, but it is a bit of a simplification to say it is interchangeable with silver in that capacity as not enough is understood about how either metal works in that regard. In any case, properly manufactured copper waterblocks are coated with a thin layer of shellac or similar sealant to prevent oxidation, which should keep free copper ions from doing their work on microbes. Any plating covers up the copper entirely, of course.

Also, silver is a lot more expensive than copper (much more expensive than it is better as a heat conductor) so it is impractical as a block material.

Silver is not used in PC watercooling loops for its thermal properties. Copper is not used in PC watercooling loops for its anti-microbial properties, but I suppose it would probably work to put in a raw copper killcoil instead of a silver one.
I understand that fully but nowhere did I say anything about cost-effectiveness nor did I say what its use was for. I simply stated facts. 2+2 will always equal 4.
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the game changes if you include a zinc anode to pick up the stray electrons that cause the disassociation we call corrosion. It also helps if you earth ground your loop to prevent electrolysis.
ok going to take my asprin my brain hurts
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ok going to take my asprin my brain hurts
hahahaha remember making a battery in grade school out of a piece of zinc and a piece of copper dipped in some acid? Same concept except you're just trying to remove those stray electrons, not make a battery.
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Hmm you look like a man that might market this
Haha that's probably a great idea, I'm sure us PC wackos will gladly pay $2 or $3 for a copper killcoil that costs approx. 8 cents in raw material. The percentage profit is a lot bigger than with silver but the markup per unit would still be smaller. Having two killcoils, one silver, one copper, would actually be really effective, I think.

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I understand that fully but nowhere did I say anything about cost-effectiveness nor did I say what its use was for. I simply stated facts. 2+2 will always equal 4.
Well this thread has gone somewhat off the rails but the main conversation, as I see it, has turned to the various metals in PC watercooling loops, and why they are used or not. So in the context of this thread, to my eyes, a plain reading of your very brief post implies you were citing silver's thermal properties as the reason it is used in loops. Otherwise, why mention it since as we agree, it's not relevant?
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