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Hey everybody I could use some advice, thanks in advance this may be a little long winded.

I'm wanting to do a build soon pretty much specifically for Skyrim. My current rig is dated so I think it's time, I'm looking to spend around $1150 but that is flexible. I was thinking I'd wait until November to build when the new AMD cards were supposed to come out then, but now they've been pushed back and even when they come out in Q1 there will most likely be supply issues. The issue is I cant update my CPU/mobo until December 1st because I have access to retail edge and the savings are too good to pass up.

Would it be a bad idea to wait until November and drop a single 6970 into my current rig so I can play Skyrim and then buy another 6970 and the rest of the rig in December or Black Friday? It seems really close to be buying near a new generation of cards but the word is the new die process is running into a lot of problems.

Here's the build:
New Rig


Thank you all for you time, I'm open to any comments, suggestions on parts, suggestions on when to buy, anything really.
post #2 of 11
Personally, I would purchase a good 6950 and overclock it to 6970+ levels.

Oh wait ... I did

Seriously though - your rig should handle Skyrim fine with an OC'd 6950. You could get a GTX570 or 6950/6970, but personally I intend to have the option of using graphics mods which may well chew VRAM and want AA turned up so the 2gb's of the AMD cards won out.

Anyways, the 6950 is probably the best bang for the buck Do this, and save all your cash towards a new rig. A GPU upgrade will tide you over until you're ready to drop the $$$ on a new platform.

Question: is your CPU overclocked to its max? Is it temps holding you back or components? If it's simply temperatures, then also spend a few bucks on a slightly better cooler and get a few hundred more mhz out of your CPU. Might make a difference, and would be a cheap way of wringing some extra juice out of your machine until you upgrade.

My 2 cents. ...

(PS: personally, I don't think the 6970 worth the extra cash. 6950's can potentially unlock still, and regardless, when overclocked perform slightly higher than 6970 levels anyways. Sure the 6970 has a slightly higher overclock potential, but value for money, 6950 wins every time. The difference is eventually moot regardless. If you can't play a game on an overclocked 6950, it won't play on an overclocked 6970. Get the cheaper one that has a higher relative overclock potential to its stock values than its older sibling)
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lol overkill, but i like it!
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So you're saying I should buy a new 6950/6970 in November for Skyrim and then build the rest in December correct? Or are you saying to wait for the 7 series AMD and 6 series nvidia?

How do you like the TF3? I was considering getting 2 of those as opposed to the 6970s because they'd be so much quieter and have a lot of OC headroom.

PS: I could definitely overclock more, I need to reseat. or if I find out the H60 will fit the new LGA2011 I'll go ahead and buy one of those. I'm hoping the 1155 heatsinks will work on the 2011, I plan on buying whichever is cheapest when I purchase, the H60, Silver Arrow, or NH-D14.
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http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/407...iew/index.html

Enough said. Get this card. Best value for money, dual slot, (relatively) quiet, good quality, high overclock potential. There's no reason to dump the extra cash on a 6970. This is the card to get.

(I spent a month deciding between this and every option up to a GTX580, and I came from a top-overclocking 6850 that was above a stock 6870 in performance, so the jump wasn't *that massive*. But this card overclocked is the right price/performance for me, given I'll be getting one of the new series GTX600 or HD7000 when they're out)
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That's a great link and it sold me. It's beating the sapphire 6970 that I looking at, although I expect OC potential to be a little less when in crossfire.

Still a little on the fence about what to do as far as the timing of the build goes. Any more suggestions?
post #7 of 11
Timing wise, wait it out. Overclock your CPU a little more, upgrade your GPU ... and see how it all pans out.

Bulldozer. Sandy-Bridge-E. Ivy-bridge?

There's movement happening platform wise in the next few months, and frankly, your system, so long as it's running a single GPU only and especially if overclocked another few hundred Mhz, should handle any new game, period.

Your build looked great. Very well balanced. But yeah, just take your time. If Skyrim is your main priority, as it is mine, then there's no chance you'll be CPU limited (IMO). And frankly I can't see you being too hampered in any game. You've got plenty of breathing room with an OC'd 6950 in there...
 
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I see where you're coming from. I'll be upgrading my CPU and mobo in December because there's no point not to with the prices you get with the Retail Edge deals. So I guess I'm nervous because a $300 card is expensive if I'm using it just to hold me over a couple months until the new ones.
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I wouldn't think that the OC'd 6950 will stop maxing 98% of all games with AA/AF just because of the new released cards. And like you're planning, there's always crossfire/trifire (the latter being the peak of performance wherein microstutter allegedly all but completely disappears)

And I wouldn't get the cards at release prices anyways - always wait for a month or two for better revisions with better cooling solutions and higher-quality hardware like VRM's.

I would go with the MSI TFIII 6950, a higher CPU overclock (and new cpu cooler if necessary, as most new ones will work cross-platform) and then save your monies.

When you see the right deal, when you have the money, and can hold out no longer ... then make your purchase. You can't go wrong with Sandy Bridge, and SB-E will be better, I'm sure. Who knows where AMD will be at (hint: the anti-AMD fanboys do not).

Point is, wait and see. You'll be happy enough with the 6950 on either your current 775 or a new platform. Take it a step at a time. But the only thing I know for sure is that you should get the TFIII 6950, OC your CPU more, and be patient with the rest.
 
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Thank you so much, I think I'll probably get the 6950 TF3 in the beginning of November for Skyrim along with an H60, Sliver Arrow, or NH-D14. Then I'll get Sandy Bridge-E with retail edge in December. I'll buy another 6950 and the rest of my rig then or on Black Friday if I see some great deals.

I appreciate the help, I feel more comfortable with my plan now. If anyone else has their two cents feel free to chime in.
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