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Some googling yielded this result
LLC level 1: overvolt when on load
LLC level 2: keep the bios vcore setting on load
LLC level 3: very light vdroop
LLC level 4: not so light vdroop
LLC level 5: BIG vdroop
Is this correct? So low LLC (lv 5) means lots of vdroop while high LLC (lv 1) meas no vdroop, aka voltage increase?

I've got a few posts on LLC a few pages back. I did some testing on all levels to show how much drop there actually is. There is no preferred setting for LLC because for the most part the max VCore stays the same, it's the min VCore that changes. So if you can find a sweet spot where your max VCore needs to be, you can lower the LLC (higher number) so that your min VCore is lower at idle. I think I'm on level 4 (maybe 5, I'll have to check) but I settled on 4.6 GHz and my max VCore is 1.36 but my idle VCore is 1.00-1.01. Of course this is using offset.
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this sounds about right.. i've got mine at 4.8 and llc at 4 (though i've been debating moving it to 3 for longer p95 stability)
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this sounds about right.. i've got mine at 4.8 and llc at 4 (though i've been debating moving it to 3 for longer p95 stability)

Changing the LLC shouldn't have any affect on your stability under load. Your max VCore will stay the same. The LLC range is constant so setting your LLC is a matter of where your max VCore needs to be to remain stable. For example, somebody who might like a 4.2 GHz OC would actually need a higher (numerically lower) LLC such as 1 or 2 because their max VCore can be a lot lower, therefore making their min VCore too low to boot because an LLC of 4 or 5 will drop it too much. Hope that makes sense, lol. Sounded better in my head.
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ok that doesnt make any sense because im set at level 2 for LLC
Im at 4.5GHz (100.4x45), my voltage is manually set to 1.375 but under load it drops down to 1.26v
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Are you using offset?
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AFAIK im not, i followed a guide that said to switch it to manual....
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OK well that explains it. I'm using offset, so your min VCore won't drop as much as mine. The LLC posts I made are in reference to offset. I'd use manual for now until you find the perfect VCore you need and then try offset.
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Hello all,

New ASRock owner here, just picked up one of the Extreme3 Gen3 mobo/RAM combos during the Newegg Valentines Day sale. Going to be putting me a new gaming rig together next week when all the rest of the pieces arrive. Hopefully it all goes well as haven't done a full system build since I first left the Navy in the late 90s, so should be interesting. But I am sure to be lurking about here and learning what I can.
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http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html Download this program, it kinda tells you what program/system files causes the BSOD, may help narrow things down.

thanks, i've used WhoCrashed and the results are almost the same as below:
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This was likely caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe
Bugcheck code: 0x1E (0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0)
Error: KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
Dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\021712-6754-01.dmp
file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product: MicrosoftR WindowsR Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: NT Kernel & System

ntoskrnl.exe can be affected by any program / drivers so i'm kinda hard to narrow down issues.

the symptoms i have could be duplicated from 4.2G to 4.7G oc, and from the heavy load test results, i know there's no problem when on load, the problem always occurs when under load..
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thanks, i've used WhoCrashed and the results are almost the same as below:
ntoskrnl.exe can be affected by any program / drivers so i'm kinda hard to narrow down issues.
the symptoms i have could be duplicated from 4.2G to 4.7G oc, and from the heavy load test results, i know there's no problem when on load, the problem always occurs when under load..

If the problem is under light load and/or idle, have you tried enabling some of the power saving features like C1E? Or does that mess up you oc? Just a thought, as I saw in your earlier post that you disabled everything power saving related.

Also why would you run your cpu at 4.7 all the time? Seems like you have found the voltage for stable oc, you should switch to offset mode instead of fixed.
Edited by tstng - 2/18/12 at 1:31am
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