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Hmmm, the Ext 4 Gen 3 sounds much like the Asus boards (in terms of fan control).
There are headers for 2 cpu fans (1x4 pin, 1x3 pin), but both run off one controller and can be thermally adjusted.
Mine ramps up in a matter of seconds. The bearings in my TX3 fan got a bit noisey, but with an aftermarket fan, I now use the ATXU software just to check the rpm (quiet).

On the Asrock board, both CPU headers very well might run off the controller, but you'd need one 3 pin fan and one 4 pin fan. I'm not sure I have two identical fans. But with the Asus boards they also have one 3 pin and one 4 pin header and they were both controllable using 3 pin fans. I'm wondering if it's just the Fatal1ty boards that take so long to ramp up, I'm not the only one. It should be instantaneous.
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Not sure about your board but on my Fatal1ty only one CPU fan header runs with the fan control. The other is not controllable. Which is really useless if you want to run a push/pull setup. On the Asus boards both headers are controllable with a 3 pin or 4 pin and they run equally. I'm running a push/pull so I needed to get the Y splitter you mentioned. The fan control on there boards are terrible, it takes well over a full minute for the fans to ramp up to speed. I've mentioned this a few times on here. It's really my only gripe about the Asrock boards, it's something that Asus definitely has an edge in. I miss the custom fan profiles.


That means when i used push pull before and every fan on its own connector only one of them was using auto controll and the other one was full speed all the time :-(. I don't get it, how am I to set this up with this board. One would think that with this expensive board they got this right. So if I got this right one board fan connector can't regulate automatically 2 fans connected with Y cable?
Also now I tryed connecting rear exaust and front intake fans to the Chasis_Fan1 connector with Y cable I got with noctua and they are both working full speed no mater what I set (only one is detected in bios affcorse). I'm lost :-(.
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That means when i used push pull before and every fan on its own connector only one of them was using auto controll and the other one was full speed all the time :-(. I don't get it, how am I to set this up with this board. One would think that with this expensive board they got this right. So if I got this right one board fan connector can't regulate automatically 2 fans connected with Y cable?
Also now I tryed connecting rear exaust and front intake fans to the Chasis_Fan1 connector with Y cable I got with noctua and they are both working full speed no mater what I set (only one is detected in bios affcorse). I'm lost :-(.

If you get a Y splitter and connect it to the controllable header you will be able to control both fans equally. If you use both headers one fan will run full speed which will put unneeded stress on both fans. Unless one is a 3 pin fan and one is a 4 pin fan. In that case I'm not sure what will happen, I haven't tried it. I decided to go with the splitter because it's cheaper than buying two more identical fans but with different connectors.

As far as your chassis fans I can't help you. I have my chassis fans hooked up to my manual case controller.
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If you get a Y splitter and connect it to the controllable header you will be able to control both fans equally. If you use both headers one fan will run full speed which will put unneeded stress on both fans. Unless one is a 3 pin fan and one is a 4 pin fan. In that case I'm not sure what will happen, I haven't tried it. I decided to go with the splitter because it's cheaper than buying two more identical fans but with different connectors.
As far as your chassis fans I can't help you. I have my chassis fans hooked up to my manual case controller.

ok. just to double check if I got this right so I at list solve the problem of cpu cooler push-pull.

I have noctua with:

nf-f12 pwm with L.N.A adapter wich should give me 1200rpm (4pin)
NF-P14 (1200rpm)

both connected together with Y cable to CPU_connector1 (4pin). only one connector on Y cable has 4 wires, the other one 3, but I guess this is to be expected cos I don't know what would happen if you connect both signals.

The way I connected them they should both be auto controlled?

For the other fans I have no idea what I'm going to do now. My idea was to make this fully automatic without the need to use some additional fan controller or the need to manually set the speeds when I bench or game :-(.

cheers.

edit: but if this is correct I asked above then I should also be able to connect 2 fans (only versions with 4 wires??) to chas_fan1 with Y cable?

edit2: ok, I checked. I connected one old 4 wire fan to the Y cable 3 pin connector and signal line from this fan to power_fan on mainboard to read the signal in bios while changing "level" of fan and indeed the speed is changing. I will check the same for chas_fan1 connector but the problem is my front intake and rear exhaust fans are 3 wire ones :-(.
cheers.
Edited by geronimo - 6/5/12 at 12:31pm
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I'm getting an annoying problem, where the USB mouse disconnects and reconnects intermittently. This causes disruptions in anything I'm doing, from games to simply web browsing. I switched USB ports but no luck.

Is this a know problem? And is there a solution? Mouse works fine in other computers. I have all options under USB in BIOS enable, including USB3.0 (don't know if this is helpful)
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The way I connected them they should both be auto controlled?
edit: but if this is correct I asked above then I should also be able to connect 2 fans (only versions with 4 wires??) to chas_fan1 with Y cable?

In practice, yes this is possible.
Whether the electrical draw from the fans outweigh the header supply is another thing altogether.
Like I said above, why not ditch the Y piece and just use CPU_1 for the NF-F12, and the CPU_2 for the NF-P14?
This is what ASRock intended when they put 2 cpu headers on the board.
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I'm getting an annoying problem, where the USB mouse disconnects and reconnects intermittently. This causes disruptions in anything I'm doing, from games to simply web browsing. I switched USB ports but no luck.
Is this a know problem? And is there a solution? Mouse works fine in other computers. I have all options under USB in BIOS enable, including USB3.0 (don't know if this is helpful)

My wife's laptop (quite old now) used to do this also. Not sure it is your exactly problem, but go into device manager, usb controllers, right click all your hubs and change the power management.
I think this can be done for just about all devices somewhere within the Windows 7 power settings (if that's the OS you're using)
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In practice, yes this is possible.
Whether the electrical draw from the fans outweigh the header supply is another thing altogether.

what do you meen? that the fans wont be gettin enough juice to run full speed when needed, or something in the board could get overloaded?
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Like I said above, why not ditch the Y piece and just use CPU_1 for the NF-F12, and the CPU_2 for the NF-P14?
This is what ASRock intended when they put 2 cpu headers on the board.

well, cos then only one of them will use auto control or not? jizus, it's easier to OC this beast than to set the damn fans properly.
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You're back ... what happened w/Geek squad? Anyway, you should be able to do the "clean boot" no matter, unless your initial install is corrupted in some way which I along with eVga believe is at the root (literally) of your problem ... so follow Sean's guide and do a complete reformat/install but use eVga's load orders if it differs from Sean's. Additionally when reading your recommendations from eVga I didn't see the step where you add in the 2nd 680 so I'd double check w/them again ... do you have a support ticket open w/them? If not do so ... if all else fails maybe they would swap your 2 680's for a 690? Knowing them well they probably will! ...
Here's a useful thread on disabling "Services" and possible consequences for future reference, although it shouldn't be applicable here as you need to get set up "initially" with a clean install and minimal hardware for troubleshooting.
http://www.blackviper.com/service-configurations/black-vipers-windows-7-service-pack-1-service-configurations/
Wow I thought I held onto old gear for a long time (PCI Audigy 2ZS) ... you've done the bios settings, I thought maybe you missed so, have you tried just "1" IDE drive only without the master/slave 2/IDE config? You could also get a USB/IDE external docking station (enclosure) and connect them through a USB (maybe e-sata?) port. Finally I think you may have to do a clean install/reformatt all in IDE (no AHCI or Raid), loosing all the features of AHCI/RAID, which personally I don't think it is worth it. Double check this with the SSD/HDD wiz Sean (new post) HERE or his win7 install thread HERE

Hahahah i LOLed with the Geek Squad stuff...

Thanks for the advice again, i dont know if maybe Windows is responsible of this because i see that when i go to device manager i see something called Code 12 and a disclaimer that reads "This device cannot find enough resources blah blah blah" It is like if Windows would be trying to assign the same resource as another of the connected devices and they are both in conflict. I found out that those resource thingies are called IRQ (or Interrupt Request) and those are sequenced numbers that Windows assigns to every device connected to the computer.

So tonight i will try and see if i can manually assign another resource. What it is a PITA is that ALL of the similar problems i have seen on the internet are of people using very old MOBOs and very old video cards (like 8600 for instance) and in almost all instances this problem got solved with a BIOS update. The problem is that the only update i can use with the ASROCK Z68 extreme 7 is the newest since i have a Ivy Bridge processor.

I will report back guys!
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Also one last thing, (i know that by this time nobody gives a f*ck on my issue since it kind out turned out to be quite a Soap Opera) but i will try doing something diferently today. Look i saw many instances in which a lot of people was saying that the problem i have they where having it too but ONLY with windows 7, all of them confirmed that both video cards worked perfectly fine in Windows XP so, i will try installing Windows XP tonight and confirm once and for all that Windows is or is not the problem

The only big advantage i have is that i have one of those Corsair FORCE GT SSDs and those MOFOs are sick fast...i can turn on/off the computer really quick without loosing to much time.

Thanks anyone for the advice so far!

I hope my calamities help someone else in the future to solve a similar problem
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