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Originally Posted by PormTroooper View Post

If we used the same board, I would call BS on this. But seeing as you have the Fatality, there could be a difference, which sucks!!!
Based on my Ext4Gen3, both cpu headers (4pin and 3pin) work with both manual and temperature regulation control.
I was able to set my target fan speed on 1 and my temperature target at 45DegC.
Ran Prime95 for a few minutes and once the cpu hit 45DegC, then fan started ramping up.
Fan RPM range was 700rpm to about 3100rpm.
You have to remember that Temperature Target is where you want the fan to START ramping. Not a ceiling level you want the cpu to stay at.
That's why I asked earlier to lower the Temp Target. (you probably knew this right). I had a bit of confusion the first time I used the BIOS.
I've even seen on youtube, guys who have the Z68 Fatality ProG3, manually adjusting the cpu_2 fan, even going as far as setting a temperature target.
Why would they be doing that if it wasn't able to be adjusted?
I just don't understand how two boards same manufacturer, same chipset, same sandybridge architecture won't allow you thermal regulation on the 3 pin cpu header.
Maybe someone on the official Fatality thread can simply say yes/no.. as I am just not buying it from Asrock atm.
I have the Z68 Fatal1ty Pro Gen3 and an NH-D14 heatsink with dual fans. When using the BIOS settings, having it increase the fan speed once a temp is reached, it only increases the speed of Fan 1, as Fan 2 is stuck at full speed all the time. Because of this, I use the small resistor cable that comes with the heatsink to reduce the speed of Fan 2 so its not so loud (about 900 RPM). Fan 1 still starts at 900 RPM, but will increase to 1300 RPM when the CPU temp increases. Others with this MB have the same issue.
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post #2452 of 2941
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I have the Z68 Fatal1ty Pro Gen3 and an NH-D14 heatsink with dual fans. When using the BIOS settings, having it increase the fan speed once a temp is reached, it only increases the speed of Fan 1, as Fan 2 is stuck at full speed all the time. Because of this, I use the small resistor cable that comes with the heatsink to reduce the speed of Fan 2 so its not so loud (about 900 RPM). Fan 1 still starts at 900 RPM, but will increase to 1300 RPM when the CPU temp increases. Others with this MB have the same issue.

hm, strange this. I tested the other day and indeed with ext4gen3 cpu_1 and cpu_2 are both working properly with my noctua pwm fans. I also tried non pwm fans on cpu_2 connector and it's working properly.
actually I would use cpu_1 with y cable with 2 pwm fans and cpu_2 with y cable with 2 non pwm fans but I'm afraid that this would be too much for the headers.
I tried asking asrock support but still no response from them.
cheers.
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post #2453 of 2941
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I have the Z68 Fatal1ty Pro Gen3 and an NH-D14 heatsink with dual fans. When using the BIOS settings, having it increase the fan speed once a temp is reached, it only increases the speed of Fan 1, as Fan 2 is stuck at full speed all the time. Because of this, I use the small resistor cable that comes with the heatsink to reduce the speed of Fan 2 so its not so loud (about 900 RPM). Fan 1 still starts at 900 RPM, but will increase to 1300 RPM when the CPU temp increases. Others with this MB have the same issue.

Although it is just something as simple as a fan header... wow asrock.
Thanks for the confirm FAUguy. I'm just shrugging me shoulders here.
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post #2454 of 2941
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Originally Posted by PormTroooper View Post

If we used the same board, I would call BS on this. But seeing as you have the Fatality, there could be a difference, which sucks!!!
Based on my Ext4Gen3, both cpu headers (4pin and 3pin) work with both manual and temperature regulation control.
I was able to set my target fan speed on 1 and my temperature target at 45DegC.
Ran Prime95 for a few minutes and once the cpu hit 45DegC, then fan started ramping up.
Fan RPM range was 700rpm to about 3100rpm.
You have to remember that Temperature Target is where you want the fan to START ramping. Not a ceiling level you want the cpu to stay at.
That's why I asked earlier to lower the Temp Target. (you probably knew this right). I had a bit of confusion the first time I used the BIOS.
I've even seen on youtube, guys who have the Z68 Fatality ProG3, manually adjusting the cpu_2 fan, even going as far as setting a temperature target.
Why would they be doing that if it wasn't able to be adjusted?
I just don't understand how two boards same manufacturer, same chipset, same sandybridge architecture won't allow you thermal regulation on the 3 pin cpu header.
Maybe someone on the official Fatality thread can simply say yes/no.. as I am just not buying it from Asrock atm.

I'm with you, I find it hard to believe that two similar boards would be different in respect to fan control. But, I don't have any 4 pin fans to test. Yeah I realize the temp target is when the fan kicks in. I do have regulation on mine, that's not the issue. The issue is how long it takes to ramp up to speed. It should be instantaneous, not over a minute. That's why all this didn't make any sense because when I had the MIVE it would kick in immediately whether I used the 3 pin or 4 pin header... and that's using 3 pin fans.
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Originally Posted by geronimo View Post

hm, strange this. I tested the other day and indeed with ext4gen3 cpu_1 and cpu_2 are both working properly with my noctua pwm fans. I also tried non pwm fans on cpu_2 connector and it's working properly.
actually I would use cpu_1 with y cable with 2 pwm fans and cpu_2 with y cable with 2 non pwm fans but I'm afraid that this would be too much for the headers.
I tried asking asrock support but still no response from them.
cheers.

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Originally Posted by FAUguy View Post

I have the Z68 Fatal1ty Pro Gen3 and an NH-D14 heatsink with dual fans. When using the BIOS settings, having it increase the fan speed once a temp is reached, it only increases the speed of Fan 1, as Fan 2 is stuck at full speed all the time. Because of this, I use the small resistor cable that comes with the heatsink to reduce the speed of Fan 2 so its not so loud (about 900 RPM). Fan 1 still starts at 900 RPM, but will increase to 1300 RPM when the CPU temp increases. Others with this MB have the same issue.

I asked around before I used the Y splitter, almost everybody said it would not be a problem. I had that concern as well. FWIW, that's not why my fans take so long to ramp up, it does the same with one fan. All the other fan headers on the board are made to run much larger case fans, I wouldn't see any problems running two smaller ones.

I think FAUguy's problem is he's got one 3 pin fan connected to a 4 pin header. It has no way to control it. At least as far as these boards are concerned.
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The issue is how long it takes to ramp up to speed. It should be instantaneous, not over a minute.

Is this also the case when you manually set a target speed?
Oh and what's the go with the AXTU and F Stream software... are they the same nowdays?
I had assumed the later was moreso for the Fatality boards.
Edited by PormTroooper - 6/11/12 at 2:48pm
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Hello! My system right now is stable with an OC of 4.8 and vcore of 1.43-44. I would like to try to get up to 5.0 or beyond. What should be the first thing I should do to get there? I'm guessing up vcore until I am able to boot?

Load temps right now are low 60s. Everything is water cooled.
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Is this also the case when you manually set a target speed?
Oh and what's the go with the AXTU and F Stream software... are they the same nowdays?
I had assumed the later was moreso for the Fatality boards.

Yeah, it's with manual settings as well. I leave it at level 1 so it idles quietly. I set it at 55°. I was under the impression AXTU and F Stream were identical just for different boards and have different designs.
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Hello! My system right now is stable with an OC of 4.8 and vcore of 1.43-44. I would like to try to get up to 5.0 or beyond. What should be the first thing I should do to get there? I'm guessing up vcore until I am able to boot?
Load temps right now are low 60s. Everything is water cooled.

Your temps look good so going for 5.0 should be OK. I've found out that once you get past 4.6 the necessary VCore starts to increase significantly. You'll need 1.5 to get it done. IMO I'd stick with 4.8 even 4.6 because the increase in actual speed will be so minimal it's almost not worth putting your CPU through that much stress. I got to 5.0 just for the hell of it and ran a couple tests just to say I did it. I ended up settling for 4.6 because there was about a .15 decrease in VCore.
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