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Its amd fx release day soon & i just read this responses from what seems to be someone closely involved in making this cpu. The way i see it is that there is clearly a design flaw, perhaps them shared modules or whatever. The bit that buggers me is when they were designing a new architecture did they run some sort of simulations to see how the piece of silicon cut in such way behave like... i mean it can be done - once you build a bit of code that knows the properties of certain material you can then shape it any way you want & get some sort of idea to how it might perform. If my understanding is correct when they make certain chip in the fab its then being tested idividually to how good the particular piece will perform, then according to that info the model number is given, but its all down to how good the material is in the given slab of silicon (well there are bunch of other factors too). That guy monstru sounds like the performance was unexpected to him & it was a surprise that it failed to be better than their previous tech. I mean why even bother releasing new product in that case? Amd is outstanding in budget market & their new apus are godsend, tbh from now on im planning to buy only apus for my clients as its such a great & efficient design...
So can someone confirm please whether such software exist & why do you think amd designers/engies hit this flaw which they seem couldnt go around in all that time (delays) given to them by the management upstairs. I think directors extended deadline but since it wasnt resolved they decided to still release it because of the public pressure.
Whats your view on this?
Edited by Morbid_666 - 10/11/11 at 3:00pm
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the pic link doesnt work for me ...
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I don't know if this should be moved to rumors, but I doubt we'll arrive to a solid conclusion, we'll probably just speculate the hell out of what really happened.
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im sure that amd ran simulations on their cpu's but i can't see your link op ... update the link please so we could discuss what was discussed in that ss
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Morbid_666;15257859 
Amd is outstanding in budget market & their new apus are godsend, tbh from now on im planning to buy only apus for my clients as its such a great & efficient design...

Great an efficient design? Have you seen the power consumption comparison of AMDs APUs and alternative intel configurations?

The 2600K with all cores loaded by prime95 uses less power than the A8-2650 in real world power consumption tests. Each SB CPU below that point uses even less power.

The APUs were every bit as epic fail as bulldozer, but somehow we all let that slip by.

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Originally Posted by mdocod;15275731 
Great an efficient design? Have you seen the power consumption comparison of AMDs APUs and alternative intel configurations?

The 2600K with all cores loaded by prime95 uses less power than the A8-2650 in real world power consumption tests. Each SB CPU below that point uses even less power.

The APUs were every bit as epic fail as bulldozer, but somehow we all let that slip by.

Eric
i was talking about llano low level segment for pcs that are used for office.
i can get apu for £50 that will have nb, mem controller & gpu inbuilt & since there is no nb/gpu on the motherboard the overall system cost will be driven down. i can now build a very descent pc for with latest hardware & at least 5 year proof performance for below £200. i built lots of pc & further we go cheaper & better hardware i see. always go for asus/amd route - never had a problem, never had to rma.
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Originally Posted by Morbid_666;15257859 
monstru.jpg

Its amd fx release day soon & i just read this responses from what seems to be someone closely involved in making this cpu.

The way i see it is that there is clearly a design flaw, perhaps them shared modules or whatever.

The bit that buggers me is when they were designing a new architecture did they run some sort of simulations to see how the piece of silicon cut in such way behave like... i mean it can be done - once you build a bit of code that knows the properties of certain material you can then shape it any way you want & get some sort of idea to how it might perform.

If my understanding is correct when they make certain chip in the fab its then being tested individually to how good the particular piece will perform, then according to that info the model number is given, but its all down to how good the material is in the given slab of silicon (well there are bunch of other factors too).

That guy monstrous sounds like the performance was unexpected to him & it was a surprise that it failed to be better than their previous tech. I mean why even bother releasing new product in that case? Amd is outstanding in budget market & their new apus are godsend, tbh from now on im planning to buy only apus for my clients as its such a great & efficient design...

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I think directors extended deadline but since it wasn't resolved they decided to still release it because of the public pressure.

Whats your view on this?

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