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I guess it's just me but I can't quite wrap my head around it. I could understand the jump in processing power between the 3Gs and the 4 as there was still some noticeable latency in the 3Gs, but I haven't been able to do anything to the 4 to bog it down.

I dunno. Just me I guess, not very up to speed on phone components.

Yeah, I dunno. It's not like with a computer, where your productivity increases with its speed. As long as the phone is fast enough not to be bothersome that's all that's needed.

The 3GS wasn't too bad. It's the 2G and 3G that were horribly slow and had so little RAM they crashed all the time. If you got a phone call while playing a game, the whole thing froze and crashed. Every time you wanted to change the game you were playing you had to reboot because of the 1st one's memory leaks. You had to 'reformat' the phone every 3-4 months because several gigs of space kept getting eaten up by "other". If you wanted to make a phone call it took about 30 seconds to exit safari, open up the phone app, and load the contacts. The battery life was so bad you had to charge it twice a day - and that's if you DIDN'T browse the web or play any games.

Either way, upgrading from a 4 right now is pointless. I mean...it's just additional speed that isn't needed, and some software that'll make you look awkward talking to it in public.
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I find it funny how apple has never really been about specs. their computers are really overpriced when it comes to good specs. their phones have always been about the "experience" and I understand that. What gets to me is that apple suddenly turns around and goes "it's the hardware that counts" and all the sheeple, they take it.
Actually, what I find funny is that everyone has suddenly changed their minds to continue hating and bashing Apple irrationally.

A few days ago, everyone was claiming how Android phones are much faster than iPhone 4 since they have better specs and these absolutely crucial specs provide the better experience and make these top tiers android phones superior to Apple's.

And then these benchmarks come and prove that the iPhone 4S has the best specs and everyone retracts their statements and says that specs are suddenly not important, and no one is going to even use them.

Yup, absolutely hilarious.


Also, I'd like to make a point: specs are very important, but they are not the only thing that determine the experience. The OS has an equally important part too. I think that is the point Apple and the "sheeple" are trying to make.

FYI, I don't have an iPhone or an Android phone.
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Actually, what I find funny is that everyone has suddenly changed their minds to continue hating and bashing Apple irrationally.

A few days ago, everyone was claiming how Android is much faster than iPhone 4 since it has better specs and better specs provide the better experience.
And then these benchmarks come and prove that the iPhone 4S has the best specs and everyone retracts their statements and says that specs are suddenly not important.

Also, I'd like to make a point: specs are very important, but they are not the only thing that determine the experience. The OS has an equally important part too.

FYI, I don't have an iPhone or an Android phone.
I, for one, never claimed that specs were important. I've said it before and I'll say it again the only things I wanted on the new iPhone (that I would have bought it for) were a bigger screen, longer battery life, and 128GB of space. Ok sure I guess they're specs, but I never once said anything about how fast it should or shouldn't be. Any of the phones on that list of benchmarks are fast enough to offer comfortable usage.

And FYI, I have an iPhone4, and I like it just fine.
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Actually, what I find funny is that everyone has suddenly changed their minds to continue hating and bashing Apple irrationally.

A few days ago, everyone was claiming how Android phones are much faster than iPhone 4 since they have better specs and these absolutely crucial specs provide the better experience and make these top tiers android phones superior to Apple's.

And then these benchmarks come and prove that the iPhone 4S has the best specs and everyone retracts their statements and says that specs are suddenly not important, and no one is going to even use them.

Yup, absolutely hilarious.


Also, I'd like to make a point: specs are very important, but they are not the only thing that determine the experience. The OS has an equally important part too. I think that is the point Apple and the "sheeple" are trying to make.

FYI, I don't have an iPhone or an Android phone.
Piling on, because I agree, 3d games are less important because they are on a iphone. The best mobile phone gaming is on the iphone, by far. Polygons , frame rate, the gyroscope. These games look impressively smooth on the 2010 models.
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Well, that is a side effect of the OS having to be made compatible across different hardware variants; it simply cannot be 100% stable all throughout all combinations and permutations of possible devices. However, the fact that it still actually runs on these near-endless hardware combinations speaks of the flexibility of Android.

I bet if iOS were to be open-ended, it would be likely to suffer the same inconsistencies due to various configurations OEMs can do to the devices.
I bet you are right. I'm not arguing that it wouldn't turn out that way. But, for the purposes of what is available for me to purchase today, I'd rather have an iPhone, because I KNOW it will work well. Vs an Android, where it may work well, or it may not (because of the compatibility issues).

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I work as a service and repair technician for Sprint. 99% of any "stability" problems I see on Android are caused by bad 3rd party apps. The openess of the Android market causes more bad apps to pop up then the App Store completely controlled by Apple.

The other 1 % are people that buy a bottom of the line Android like a Replenish or Optimus and expect it to run like a SGS2.
And again, this is why I'd rather have the iPhone. I don't want an open marketplace where I can download something that will screw up my phone. I'd rather know that every application has been reviewed by professionals to ensure it's not going to do something stupid. One less thing for me to think/worry about.

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Flashing a rom doesn't fix prblems, it only fixes problems if another rom had an issue. When you get an android phone everything works properly with stock. Let's take my old Samsung Moment for an example. It only had Android 2.1 so developers ported Froyo(Android 2.2) from the Samsung Tranform which has pretty much the same hardware with a few simple fixes like GPS. The first Rom that was released had a few issues like keyboard layout/wifi wasn't working/ random reboots/ GPS wasn't working. Next rom that was released fixed most of these issues. I'm currently using an Epic 4G which doesn't have Gingerbread but I am running a MIUI 1.9.23 port which has some issues. Camera/head phone jack don't work besides that I'm running a gingerbread port that runs smoothly.

When ever I was on a stock rom I never had a problem. I root my phone to use certain apps that can't be used on a stock phone. I use a custom rom because iit increases battery life and gets rid of the FPS cap/ allows m to dual boot 2 roms. Android allows me to prsonalize my phone how I want without any limitations.

Plus I don't want to use a smaller screen now that I have a 4". I am waiting on the Galaxy Note which is a 5" screen with a resolution of 1280x1024
Some people have problems even on stock ROMs. Your experience != everyone else's experience.

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Did you even read my post about the misconceptions of Android "stability" ?

The reason battery life is typically less with Android than iOS is the lack of hardware and features in iOS. This is why Apple refuses to go bigger than 3.5" on the display and refuses to put 4G in their phone. Instead they tell their users that 3.5" screen is the best for them and that an "upgraded radio" is going to improve their 3G speeds, which it won't.
To be honest, I think the happy medium is somewhere between 3.5" and 4". But I don't mind the 3.5" either... I mean, 4", it'd probably be difficult to pull out of my pocket while I'm sitting down...

Oh, and couldn't care less about 4G. 3G is plenty fast for me when I'm out and about, and I only have the 200MB data plan anyway. I'm on wifi the vast majority of the time...
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I already pre-ordered my iPhone 4s on launch day to upgrade from my 3G (non-S). People with a 4 really don't NEED to upgrade, but they may WANT to. 3GS, 3G users should upgrade as iOS5 will probably bog down a 3GS the way iOS4 did to the 3G.

And to people spec-bashing MacBooks: for the cost, they are very competitive if not the cheapest. Specs aren't just CPU, RAM and HDD. Look at form, fit and function. That thin, light, long of a battery, LED screen, back-lit keyboard, etc., and they are actually VERY well priced and have been since Intel Macs first launched. You can't just compare speed of two laptops irrespective of size and intrinsic factors and declare one a winner; that's why laptop reviews always compare laptops to like-sized laptops. The smaller something is, the harder it is to fit everything into it, and Apple is darn good at making great laptops.
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Actually, what I find funny is that everyone has suddenly changed their minds to continue hating and bashing Apple irrationally.

A few days ago, everyone was claiming how Android phones are much faster than iPhone 4 since they have better specs and these absolutely crucial specs provide the better experience and make these top tiers android phones superior to Apple's.

And then these benchmarks come and prove that the iPhone 4S has the best specs and everyone retracts their statements and says that specs are suddenly not important, and no one is going to even use them.

Yup, absolutely hilarious.


Also, I'd like to make a point: specs are very important, but they are not the only thing that determine the experience. The OS has an equally important part too. I think that is the point Apple and the "sheeple" are trying to make.

FYI, I don't have an iPhone or an Android phone.
I'd like to point out that the iPhone 4 wasn't lacking hardware when it came out last year. the A4 processor is a Hummingbird with a PowerVR SGX 535, clearly this iPhone 4S will be outdated in 3-4 months because there are many different phone manufacturers for Android/Windows than a single iPhone. I'd also like to point out a 3.5" screen is tiny for some people and it's lacking 4G which all carriers need except for AT&T need if someone wants to browse the web while talking on the phone. The iPhone 4S is unimpressive everyone knew it was going to have the A5 we were expecting atleast a 4" screen and the "4G's" which everyone thought the iPhone 4 had.
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And again, this is why I'd rather have the iPhone. I don't want an open marketplace where I can download something that will screw up my phone. I'd rather know that every application has been reviewed by professionals to ensure it's not going to do something stupid. One less thing for me to think/worry about.
Would you like to only be able to use Microsoft software on your Windows PC as well? That way you can know all you PC software has been reviewed by "professionals" to ensure it's not going to do something stupid. You'll have way less to worry about then.

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To be honest, I think the happy medium is somewhere between 3.5" and 4". But I don't mind the 3.5" either... I mean, 4", it'd probably be difficult to pull out of my pocket while I'm sitting down...

Oh, and couldn't care less about 4G. 3G is plenty fast for me when I'm out and about, and I only have the 200MB data plan anyway. I'm on wifi the vast majority of the time...
To each their own on the screen size. It's a preference. My point is at least I can choose from 3" to 4.5" with the variety of Android devices available.

Claiming that you don't care about 4G sounds like typical Apple fanboyism to me. You say you don't need it now, but as soon as Apple decides to put it in 3 years too late you'll be touting how awesome it is.
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I'd like to point out that the iPhone 4 wasn't lacking hardware when it came out last year. the A4 processor is a Hummingbird with a PowerVR SGX 535, clearly this iPhone 4S will be outdated in 3-4 months because there are many different phone manufacturers for Android/Windows than a single iPhone. I'd also like to point out a 3.5" screen is tiny for some people and it's lacking 4G which all carriers need except for AT&T need if someone wants to browse the web while talking on the phone. The iPhone 4S is unimpressive everyone knew it was going to have the A5 we were expecting atleast a 4" screen and the "4G's" which everyone thought the iPhone 4 had.
Yes, clearly it will be outdated in 3-4 months. Question: Do you get a new phone every 3-4 months? If not, you'll also be using an outdated phone.

So what's your point? All phones get outdated...

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Would you like to only be able to use Microsoft software on your Windows PC as well? That way you can know all you PC software has been reviewed by "professionals" to ensure it's not going to do something stupid. You'll have way less to worry about then.

To each their own on the screen size. It's a preference. My point is at least I can choose from 3" to 4.5" with the variety of Android devices available.

Claiming that you don't care about 4G sounds like typical Apple fanboyism to me. You say you don't need it now, but as soon as Apple decides to put it in 3 years too late you'll be touting how awesome it is.
No, I wouldn't like the same thing on my computer, because I'd rather have more freedom and customizability there. This is why I don't plan on buying a computer with OSX either. For my phone though, not having to worry about malicious (intentionally or not) software is a huge bonus. I don't have time or desire to research different apps to see how they might affect my phone in a negative way.

Agree with you on that - a selection of screen sizes would be optimal. Heck, it'd be nice if Apple came out with a stretched version with a bigger screen (but same res) for those who wanted it.

No, 3 years from now, I still won't need 4G. In fact, I'll probably need it even less than I do now, since even more places I go will have wifi. The only place I can think of that doesn't have wifi that I visit on a somewhat regular basis is my wife's workplace, but it's out of 4G range anyway AFAIK.

Quite honestly, 5 mbps (or whatever 3G is) is perfectly fine for me. Sure, I wouldn't mind 4G, but it's absolutely not a deal-breaker to me. If I made a pie-chart of all the things on a phone that matter to me, 3G vs 4G would be less than 1% of that pie.

EDIT: And I'd actually rather have the dual-configuration antenna for better reception with 3G than a single 4G antenna. Well, if it makes a significant difference in reception anyway.
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I'm not at all surprised by the iPhone 4S's dominance in these benchmarks.

So now all the Apple haters can take the "under powered phone" argument out to the trash because it is clearly not accurate in any sense whatsoever.
 
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