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So from his own tests, bd @ 4.8 > 2500k @ 3.8 by 10% in games.. averaging out and extrapolating it seems that bd might pertorm @ 5ghz (with proper cooling and maybe some NB oc) around what a 4.2 ~ 4.6ghz 2600k in single/multi threading, respectively?

That would be fair enough in my book.. wonder if it'll be the case?
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post #12 of 75
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Originally Posted by FLCLimax View Post
i'm not quoting w00key's post, but rather Hat Monsters btw.
Single Threaded supposedly is still terrible.

If you read another of W00key's later posts, he said "Wow if this is true, you wouldn't want this for a gaming PC" or something along those lines. Then he said, "goodbye AMD", which is not good. I'll see if I can find it.
post #13 of 75
I found the thread. They also seem to be going off Lab501's results:

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtop...220&start=1360

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Edit: Err... I hope that that 4074 is an error or typo in the review because that means that Bulldozer is slower than a Core 2 Duo...
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If it sucks at single thread Cinebench, that's not a good sign.
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Do you really want a 8-core K8 at 3.6 GHz? That appears to be basically what BD turned out to be.
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At 125W on stock speed I don't really want to overclock it to 5Ghz... Although, you have zero choice if you want to game on it, it's gaming/single threaded performance is too horrible...



AMD, it was good to know you.
Edit: Duh, you already have the thread. And technically, no, they don't trade blows at all. If you mean an 8 core chip barely beating a 2500k 4 core with no HT, then, I guess so? But what about games? What about power consumption? Etc, etc.

It's the same thing we've been seeing in all the other leaked benches up to this point.
Edited by black96ws6 - 10/11/11 at 5:45am
post #14 of 75
Yet they don't trade blows.... BD hasn't even been released yet and its outperformed? #Ohwell.....
EDIT: Maybe thats why they didn't mention if it was a Plastic Toy Bulldozer or a CAT Bulldozer?
Edited by xPwn - 10/11/11 at 5:45am
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did i link to page 1 by mistake?
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Does anyone even know if it's DEFINITELY being released tomorrow?
 
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I'll believe nothing until the CPU gets released.
good thinking...all this speculations in the last month are bull.
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Is it 100% a real, non-leaked review? If not, take it with a grain of salt.

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Does anyone even know if it's DEFINITELY being released tomorrow?
Not definitively. Would be nice if AMD would give us an actual date already....
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i think thats a stupid comparison.
he said he could not put the multi of 15 more then 38.
so comparing bulldozer at 4.85 vs a 2500k at a unknown speed is not fair.

for a fair clock to clock bench both cpu should be at 4.5 for example.
Using percentage of overclocks on i7's, let's say 90% overclock to 5 ghz. 90% of BD go to 6 ghz. The 1 ghz increase constitutes a 10% increase, go with i7 because it's faster at 4.5 ghz.

It's all speculation, but saying that it isn't fair is sort of not fair. You don't know enough yet to make that assumption.
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