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Im getting a new gaming system soon, have decided on getting a 570 gtx (want to max bf3 with good frame rate 50+, have seen a lot of success with the 570 on yt), but I'm not sure what variant to get. I've heard people love the TFIII and EVGA SC, but I'm not sure which one is the best to go with.

Here's the site that i'm buying from, and i'd like to keep it under 400:

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?...cPath=193_1177

Hope you can help
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Do you plan on water cooling the card? - If so either go for the EVGA or the ASUS as you can get full cover block for them. If not get the MSI TF as they get good overclocking results and have one of the best heatsinks around.
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The MSI TFIII PE/OC is the best 570 for overclocking IMO and is priced reasonably on that site, so that's what I would go with. The 570 should play BF3 well on ultra but I wouldn't expect a reliable 50+ FPS, even a single 580 would sometimes come in under that goal.
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Do you plan on water cooling the card? - If so either go for the EVGA or the ASUS as you can get full cover block for them.
Nah I don't think I'm going to water-cool, this is my first system, and so I want to keep everything rather simple. I'm pretty clueless even for basic over clocking, so I'm pretty sure ill just go with fan cooling.

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The 570 should play BF3 well on ultra but I wouldn't expect a reliable 50+ FPS, even a single 580 would sometimes come in under that goal.
yea actually 50+ fps is a bit unrealistic. hoping for an average in the 40s, i fully expect it to go below sometimes, but a 40-50 average is what I'm hoping for.

Just a quick question, why the TFIII? I'm new to the system building scene, but based on the specs of the variants it seemed at first that the Gainward Goes Like Hell would be the best choice? Obviously this is not the case as most people don't recommend, but why makes the TFIII and other recommendations superior? Sorry bout all the questions, I'm hopping to understand this stuff a bit more.
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The key to finding a good (better?) 570 is in the power management. Most, like mine, only have 4 phase, which isn't really enough for a card as power hungry as a 570. I've already had to RMA mine once for a popped VRM.

The MSI Twin Frozr III and the Asus DCII are both known to have better than average power management, so they are both good choices.
 
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I'm probably getting the EVGA Classified myself but if I was getting one card I'd get the MSI Power Edition (I'm doing SLI and it'd be too tight with 2 MSI's)
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I'm probably getting the EVGA Classified myself but if I was getting one card I'd get the MSI Power Edition (I'm doing SLI and it'd be too tight with 2 MSI's)
Oh, is it to do with your case, or is it just that the MSI doesn't SLI easily? I' leaning towards the MSI TFIII PE as a single at the moment, but I hope to add a second one next year some time if I can get it significantly cheaper. Do I have to use the same variant to SLI, or can it be any 570?
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The MSI TFIII PE/OC is the best 570 for overclocking IMO and is priced reasonably on that site
Go with what Juano says -he's the man!!
Don't bother watercooling any GTX570, they only got 4 phase's, so just moderate overclocking.. BF3 is ok on 1 gtx570, would rock on 2 of them
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Oh, is it to do with your case, or is it just that the MSI doesn't SLI easily? I' leaning towards the MSI TFIII PE as a single at the moment, but I hope to add a second one next year some time if I can get it significantly cheaper. Do I have to use the same variant to SLI, or can it be any 570?
It can be any 570 in SLI, but you'd be best served by two of the MSI TFIII PE/OCs. Jarobata wouldn't be served well by the MSI because of the PCIe layout of his motherboard. He has his two PCie slots with a dual slot spacing, and the MSI has two problems with this. One their fans would strain for air that close to the back of another card, and two the blades of their fans actually protrude past their shroud so if the cards are too close the fans of the top could actually hit the back of the bottom card, possibly damaging both cards in the process. The vast majority of p67 and z68 motherboards that you will be looking at will have their two PCIe slots in a triple slot spacing (actually all that I've seen) so that you will will have a full slot of space between the cards for the top card to effectively intake air, and to have no chance of the top cards fans hitting the bottom card. For a motherboard with triple slot spacing, the MSI TFIII is a very good choice for SLI.
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It can be any 570 in SLI, but you'd be best served by two of the MSI TFIII PE/OCs. Jarobata wouldn't be served well by the MSI because of the PCIe layout of his motherboard. He has his two PCie slots with a dual slot spacing, and the MSI has two problems with this. One their fans would strain for air that close to the back of another card, and two the blades of their fans actually protrude past their shroud so if the cards are too close the fans of the top could actually hit the back of the bottom card, possibly damaging both cards in the process. The vast majority of p67 and z68 motherboards that you will be looking at will have their two PCIe slots in a triple slot spacing (actually all that I've seen) so that you will will have a full slot of space between the cards for the top card to effectively intake air, and to have no chance of the top cards fans hitting the bottom card. For a motherboard with triple slot spacing, the MSI TFIII is a very good choice for SLI.
Ugh. All you have seen? This kind of stuff kills me. When it comes to computers I tend to always have to learn the hard way.

This is exactly what I was going to say, go with the MSI's if you have the space.

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Go with what Juano says -he's the man!!
Don't bother watercooling any GTX570, they only got 4 phase's, so just moderate overclocking.. BF3 is ok on 1 gtx570, would rock on 2 of them
No true, reference cards are 4 phase but non-reference are not necessarily. My classifieds are 6 phase and I'd love to see what they can do on water.
Edited by Jarobata - 10/12/11 at 7:08am
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