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Yes, and that is only .223 inches diameter. The 45 caliber UMP (.45 inch diameter) uses a bullet twice the size in diameter.
Ok, you don't understand guns, the .223 has much more powder. Look at the bullets in real life, .223 is longer, but only has 1/3 the powder, but has a less diameter bullet to push.

Just because the bullet is twice the diameter, doesn't make it more powerful.

Stop talking about it if you don't know about it.
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That UMP45 from BF3 reminded me from MW2..
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i agree about the flash lights. just get rid of them.
Why, the military uses them, go look up 500 lumen surefires, they will blind you temporary.
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so glad they nerfed the bolt action rifles
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Ok, you don't understand guns, the .223 has much more powder. Look at the bullets in real life, .223 is longer, but only has 1/3 the powder, but has a less diameter bullet to push.

Just because the bullet is twice the diameter, doesn't make it more powerful.

Stop talking about it if you don't know about it.
Please quote the part where I said twice the diameter = more powerful. More powerful is also a relative term. For close quarters combat, a higher caliber, slower round will often be more effective. For long range, obviously a higher speed round will be more effective. The NATO round may have more kinetic energy, but not all that energy is transferred into the target. There is much more to the equation than kinetic energy.

I was simply stating it's main beneficial feature.

Sorry I didn't go into the entire equation. Next time I will make sure I go into all of the ballistic characteristics for guns so I can appease know nothing know it alls like you.
Edited by being that guy - 10/11/11 at 7:02pm
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um no? the UMP was awesome... the TMP was another story
some where around CS beta 6 my brother and i started using TMPs exclusively just to annoy our victims, we got pretty good at it.

used the names "TMP THIS!" and "TMP THAT!" we had many lulz...
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LOL

wow

i hope that was sarcastic.
Well, yes and no. What I meant was that it needs to be overpowered for "inter-franchise weapon balance". I mean the UMP has been in BC2, BF3, MW2, MW3 and each time it's been stupidly OP. If it suddenly gets nerfed then it, ah - wouldn't be balanced.... hell I can't take this anymore, I sincerely hope it gets nerfed far into the ground and then some.

I got 400 kills with it in the same time it took me to get 150 kills with the M4A1. Yes, I am pro but there is seriously something amiss here.
    
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so I can appease know nothing know it alls like you.
Its called not being ignorant...
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UMP-45 made me want to pull my face off during the beta. Nerf it, nerf it God dammit, before it kills us all!
    
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sniper should be level 20 unlock. As a standard kit, ruins the game.

OP, why did you make two threads with the same title and source 2 days apart?

http://www.overclock.net/video-game-...-ump-45-a.html
Snipers are more of an annoyance in the fact that they're always 500 meters away from the objective, not killing anybody, and making squad spawns that much more annoying. I really don't find snipers a threat at all because 99% of them do nothing but camp and get killed. Notice how they're always at the bottom of the list?
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