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Hello OCN, I'm helping a friend out. Hes trying to decide on which gaming laptop to get. Hes more into flashy looking things, but I'm not sure if he should go the Alienware route..

I was looking at the Sager laptops, would those be better picks?

Thanks!

EDIT: Also, hes in Canada. Don't know if that'll make a differance.
Edited by WizrdSleevz - 10/11/11 at 2:22pm
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834220957

EDIT: here's a similar one on newegg canada

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16834230112

or if you really want to go all-out -

Maingear Titan 17
Edited by Broseidon - 10/11/11 at 2:24pm
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834220957

EDIT: here's a similar one on newegg canada

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16834230112

or if you really want to go all-out -

Maingear Titan 17
Maingear better than Sager?
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Maingear better than Sager?
In my honest opinion, Maingear is the best of the best.
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Are there any good laptops that use the new APU line from AMD?
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This sends shivers down my spine.

I hate hate hate hate hate how the community of OCN has complete tunnel vision towards Asus and Sager. Quite possibly the most irritating part of my day is checking the laptop forums.

For $2500, the G73 is no better than an Acer Timeline. There is soooo much more power to be had in that budget, please don't consider a G73.

Okay, here goes:

In laptop space the bottleneck is not the CPU it's the GPU, so it makes sense to put the most of your budget into getting as much graphics muscle as possible because it's going to pay off a lot more dollar for dollar than in the desktop space. That being said, for that price I would only consider laptops with these graphics cards: GTX580m, SLI 560m, 6990m, CF6970m or even CF6990m. You're about $150 away from CF6990m's in an alienware and you could squeeze CF6990m's out of a sager from Xoticpc. The only problem is that unless you get an Alienware you are running a 130w desktop x58 processor in a laptop and, well, the problems with that are pretty self explanatory. With an M18x you're at the tippy top of the budget, but you get about a 4-5 hour battery life on integrated graphics plus a pretty quality machine. The mobile sandy bridge in anything other than the Sager 7200 platform is basically the same as the average x58 chip when it comes to games.

In short, the computers I would look at are
M18x
Sager 72xx
M17x R3
Sager NP8170
Possibly... poooosssibly an MSI gtr780 (gtx570m)

Whatever of those you choose, as long as you get the absolute maximum graphics you can in your budget, you'll be doing well for yourself. Just please for the love of all that is sacred pass on any single cards that are below a GTX570m.

Edit: Maingear Titan 17 = sager 7200. There's only one laptop that uses the x58 platform and that's the Clevo 7200. Whether you get it from Maingear, Sager, Digital Storm, whatever... it's the same computer.



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Are there any good laptops that use the new APU line from AMD?

Not really in that price range, the Llano powered systems are sub $1000 systems generally that are much more budget focused and lacking in CPU power. Although their GPU muscle is good for the price, I think you'll want to stick with a mobile sandy bridge machine.
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This sends shivers down my spine.

I hate hate hate hate hate how the community of OCN has complete tunnel vision towards Asus and Sager. Quite possibly the most irritating part of my day is checking the laptop forums.

For $2500, the G73 is no better than an Acer Timeline. There is soooo much more power to be had in that budget, please don't consider a G73.

Okay, here goes:

In laptop space the bottleneck is not the CPU it's the GPU, so it makes sense to put the most of your budget into getting as much graphics muscle as possible because it's going to pay off a lot more dollar for dollar than in the desktop space. That being said, for that price I would only consider laptops with these graphics cards: GTX580m, SLI 560m, 6990m, CF6970m or even CF6990m. You're about $150 away from CF6990m's in an alienware and you could squeeze CF6990m's out of a sager from Xoticpc. The only problem is that unless you get an Alienware you are running a 130w desktop x58 processor in a laptop and, well, the problems with that are pretty self explanatory. With an M18x you're at the tippy top of the budget, but you get about a 4-5 hour battery life on integrated graphics plus a pretty quality machine. The mobile sandy bridge in anything other than the Sager 7200 platform is basically the same as the average x58 chip when it comes to games.

In short, the computers I would look at are
M18x
Sager 72xx
M17x R3
Sager NP8170
Possibly... poooosssibly an MSI gtr780 (gtx570m)

Whatever of those you choose, as long as you get the absolute maximum graphics you can in your budget, you'll be doing well for yourself. Just please for the love of all that is sacred pass on any single cards that are below a GTX570m.

Edit: Maingear Titan 17 = sager 7200. There's only one laptop that uses the x58 platform and that's the Clevo 7200. Whether you get it from Maingear, Sager, Digital Storm, whatever... it's the same computer.






Not really in that price range, the Llano powered systems are sub $1000 systems generally that are much more budget focused and lacking in CPU power. Although their GPU muscle is good for the price, I think you'll want to stick with a mobile sandy bridge machine.
The difference between Maingear/Sager/Digital Storm and "whatever" is the customer service. ASUS makes decent laptops, and it was only a recommendation. Not "tunnel vision".

Regardless, I have a hard time taking anything seriously from someone who recommends Alienware computers.
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This sends shivers down my spine.

I hate hate hate hate hate how the community of OCN has complete tunnel vision towards Asus and Sager. Quite possibly the most irritating part of my day is checking the laptop forums.

For $2500, the G73 is no better than an Acer Timeline. There is soooo much more power to be had in that budget, please don't consider a G73.

Okay, here goes:

In laptop space the bottleneck is not the CPU it's the GPU, so it makes sense to put the most of your budget into getting as much graphics muscle as possible because it's going to pay off a lot more dollar for dollar than in the desktop space. That being said, for that price I would only consider laptops with these graphics cards: GTX580m, SLI 560m, 6990m, CF6970m or even CF6990m. You're about $150 away from CF6990m's in an alienware and you could squeeze CF6990m's out of a sager from Xoticpc. The only problem is that unless you get an Alienware you are running a 130w desktop x58 processor in a laptop and, well, the problems with that are pretty self explanatory. With an M18x you're at the tippy top of the budget, but you get about a 4-5 hour battery life on integrated graphics plus a pretty quality machine. The mobile sandy bridge in anything other than the Sager 7200 platform is basically the same as the average x58 chip when it comes to games.

In short, the computers I would look at are
M18x
Sager 72xx
M17x R3
Sager NP8170
Possibly... poooosssibly an MSI gtr780 (gtx570m)

Whatever of those you choose, as long as you get the absolute maximum graphics you can in your budget, you'll be doing well for yourself. Just please for the love of all that is sacred pass on any single cards that are below a GTX570m.

Edit: Maingear Titan 17 = sager 7200. There's only one laptop that uses the x58 platform and that's the Clevo 7200. Whether you get it from Maingear, Sager, Digital Storm, whatever... it's the same computer.






Not really in that price range, the Llano powered systems are sub $1000 systems generally that are much more budget focused and lacking in CPU power. Although their GPU muscle is good for the price, I think you'll want to stick with a mobile sandy bridge machine.
I told him I wouldn't reccomend spending that much on a laptop because you can't really upgrade it in the future..

Hes interested in the APU line from AMD tho.
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