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Yes, you have to keep the RAM in check. BUT even if the RAM is running at a "slower" speed--let's say 900MHz instead of 1066MHz--you can always tighten the timings or lower the Performance Level to make up for the "lack" of MHZ on the RAM.

And taking into account that all hardware is different: It took me ~1.376 for 3.8 GHz...1.44 for 3.9GHz and 1.456 for 4GHz. Here's a super old screenie for you to see what I mean. *In other words: with the 1.4v on the vcore, I'm willing to bet you could squeeze out a bit more MHz on that cpu.

Don't worry about getting the RAM as "fast" as the cpu for right now; get the cpu as far as it'll go, then, go back and work on the RAM--i.e. tightening timings, lowering Performance Level and whatnot...

Edit: That 7400 has an unlocked multi so the fsb can be lower for higher clocks by simply raising the multi...in .5 increments if necessary.
I'm a newbie on timings. Instruct me how.


If I'm not mistaken, I was thinking the bios setting said the max multi I could set was 11.5. I could be wrong on that though.

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Edited by Tony Romo - 10/11/11 at 6:25pm
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400 fsb x 9.5 multi = 3800 or 3.8 GHz.

Let's say your RAM is rated to run at 800MHz at 5/5/5/15 timings right? Using the System Memory Multipliers in your BIOS you could keep the RAM down at 800MHz and simply lower (tighten) the timings to 4/4/4/12 or 4/4/4/14 to get faster performance. Also there is something called Performance Level which has a big impact on RAM speeds. Let me show you what it is, I'll be back--let me download memset again and take a screenie for you.

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Okay, as you raise the fsb, your board will automatically raise this PL (Performance Level) to accommodate for the higher fsb. But, while it does, you lose performance. If you go into your BIOS and manually bring this down a bit--as far as you can while maintaining stability, you will see decent gains in memory performance.

As an example: at 465 fsb, I use PL 8 and even though my RAM runs at 950+ there, it stays pretty close to 1066MHz performance. I can take this RAM to 1126MHz 5/5/5/15 timings but, at 960 MHz 5/5/5/15 with a Performance Level of 8 instead of the automatic 10, I don't lose too much speed. These are things you won't even notice in "real world" scenerios" like gaming but, it's just to fully optimize the pc and get everything out of it that you can.

Get that cpu going as fast as it'll go then we'll help you optimize the RAM as best as you can.

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Went from 4670 to 5850. Huge difference. Instead of getting a solid 30fps in WoW i was getting 60-70.
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I could just throw this in it. Think it would suffice?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-2...item3f0ec63476



Just kidding on that.
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For that price..? No. i5 2500k 219 bucks. Core 2 Quads aren't worth it unless you buy used and cheap. I got this Q6600 for $70. I'm going to kill it with wicked oc's then go AMD+3 or 1155 at X-Mas time.

Just oc that 7400 until it screams and if it dies...upgrade. Or check the For Sale section here for a deal--that's where I bought this chip.

Good luck.

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At 3.8-4.o ghz, what would it be on par with today?
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At 3.8-4.0 ghz, what would it be on par with today?


Man, Intel is sure proud of their chips. They take forever to go down in price if ever.
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I went from a 4870 to a 5870 and this thing blew me away. After I upgraded to my current rig from a q8400 build and just about pissed myself. Good choice on the card. Any higher and you can expect a bottleneck on that chip at 3.4 :/
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well i went drom a mx440 to a 6870... yea.

its a great card, just a shame it cant oc for its life.
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Is the 5870 basically a 6870?
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