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post #1 of 6310
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[Official] The Mouse Suggestion Thread


Congrats guys, we've now made the mouse suggestion thread a sticky.

Every day we receive multiple threads where people ask for mouse suggestions. Since these threads come up so often, this thread will act as a hub for suggestions.

This will:
  1. Help buyers get their questions noticed. Many times these individual mouse suggestion threads are ignored because there are so many of them.
  2. Help knowledgeable members give advice in one consolidated location


To prospective buyers, please list the top 1-2 attributes you're looking for in a mouse. Additionally, answer the below questions to the best of your abilities. The more detailed you are, the better we can find a mouse that suits your needs.


Quote:
  1. What's your grip style?
  2. What's your sensitivity?
  3. What's your maximum budget?
  4. Do you want additional buttons?
  5. What games do you play?
  6. Do you mind about prediction?
  7. Other relevant information:
    Input anything else you want. Some examples: LOD, ambidextrous shape, weight, wireless, non-braided cord, glossy finish, button activation force, driverless, onboard memory, etc

You can copy the questions into your post from here. (Click to show)
Code:
[LIST=1]
 [*] What's your grip style?
 [*] What's your sensitivity?
 [*] What's your maximum budget?
 [*] Do you want additional buttons?
 [*] What games do you play?
 [*] Do you mind about prediction?
 [*] Other relevant information:
Input anything else you want. Some examples: LOD, ambidextrous shape, weight, wireless, non-braided cord, glossy finish, button activation force, driverless, onboard memory, etc
[/LIST]


Explanations


Grip
Grip style or grip type is the manner with which you hold your mouse. There are three main styles:
  • Claw grip
    claw_grip.jpg

  • Fingertip grip
    fingertip_grip.jpg

  • Palm grip
    palm_grip.jpg

The grip type allows to choose the shape and weight of the mouse.
Example: fingertip grippers will most likely want small and lightweight mouses.


Sensitivity
Sensitivity represents how fast the mouse cursor moves in relation to the mouse physical movement. For FPS games, sensitivity is commonly defined by distance/360°. Or, more generally, it's defined by low, mid or high (please refer to the link below if you're not sure).
Example: 50cm/360° (to make a full 360° turn, it's needed to move the mouse by 50cm). That's an example of a low sensitivity.

The sensitivity allows to choose the dpi of the mouse and, most importantly, it defines the top speed needed.
Example: low sensitivity players very often hit high speeds; thus, they need a mouse that can support those high speeds without any kind of acceleration or malfunction.

More info: ESR.


Prediction
Prediction (aka Angle Snapping, Drift Control, Correction) helps you to draw straight lines: the mouse tracking corrects (removes) the minor deviations from your line, making it as straight as possible, up to certain threshold, which varies from mouse to mouse (some mouse has more prediction than others). Ideally, a mouse should have the option to turn off the prediction, but there are plenty of mice with inherent prediction that can't be turned off.

Original thread starter hella - merged for simplicity....moderation.
post #2 of 6310
Thread Starter 
Hi hella,

I had a similar thought long time ago. I was thinking in creating a thread entitled something like "Buyers: Read this before opening a thread asking for mouse/mousepad recommendations!" and impose anyone that wants a recommendation to asnwer to some basic questions.

Roughly, something like this:
Quote:
[Title]
Buyers: Read this before opening a thread asking for mouse/mousepad recommendations!

[Body]
Before opening a thread [[I]or asking in the dedicated mouse suggestion thread[/I]], make sure to answer the following questions:
  1. What's your grip style? [[I]explains what is grip style[/I]]
  2. What's your sensitivity? [[I]explains what is and how to determine sensitivity[/I]]
  3. Etc

I was just too lazy to implement that, it's good that you had this initiative and created this thread. I think that imposing people to answer at least some basic questions like grip and sensitivity (and ignoring/warning/deleting threads that do not respect that guideline) would help to keep this forum more organized. It's indeed sometimes just a mess of "recommend me a mouse/mousepad" threads.

A great example is this: Looking to buy a laptop? Read this first.
post #3 of 6310
Great thinking Furuya.

The more information you provide on your mouse preferences, the more we can help you. The template provided above would serve as a good sample of your preferences but please feel free to further elaborate on what features you want in a mouse.

Lift-off distance, additional buttons, tracking quality, DPI, what games you play, and any additional information will help us help you.
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Another question is if they prefer prediction/angle snapping or not, as I believe that is one of the main determining factors between the G400 and DeathAdder since both track really good.
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post #5 of 6310
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Done.

Let me know if I missed something. I'll ask mods to make it sticky (if everyone else also agrees of course).
post #6 of 6310
Funny thing is, as per normal, it will go un-noticed and the posts will continue!
post #7 of 6310
Thread Starter 
So you think that the world is lost and there's nothing we can do about it?

jk biggrin.gif
post #8 of 6310
I like your idea. I opened a suggest me a mouse thread two day ago but I will move it here with Furuya format.

1. What's your grip style?

I'm using a Razer Copperhead now and I'm in between with fingertip and claw grip. My hands are little too.

2. What's your sensitivity?

Using all the 2000dpi of my Razer and feeling that a little bit more wouldn't be bad so high for sure.

3. What's your maximum budget?

Don't have a maximum budget but what I'm looking for is a great and well made mouse for the right price biggrin.gif

4. Do you want additional buttons?

The 7 buttons on my Copperhead were always enough. Maybe something like the sniping button of the R.A.T. will be cool but not really important.

5. What games do you play?

Actually League of Legends a lot, anyway mostly RTS and FPS

6. Do you mind about prediction?

I'm not even sure how much I experienced line prediction in this years. I think that choosing if you want to activate it or not will be good

7. Other relevant information:

Don't want a wireless one and maybe not too heavy, not sure about this one because I'm actually using a light mouse maybe something heavier wouldn't be bad. I actually prefer matt finish on glossy.
post #9 of 6310
Hi! Everyone, I am a newcomer to this forum. Recently, I have been watching this forum and this box for over 3-4 weeks because I am actually having some problems with my Razer Imperator and Steel Series 4HD.

My first mouse was Logitech MX518 which I bought in 2007 and it was dead half year ago. The symptom was the mouse stopped working every minutes or hours and every times I turn the mouse over, the red optical lights turn off and on again. I thought the mouse would want to retire at that time.

After that I bought the Razer Imperator 3.5G (actually I wanted to buy Razer DeathAdder 3.5G but unfortunately the shop where I bought the mouse sold out the Razer DeathAdder so I was so hurry and picked up the Imperator). I made a mistake that I bought Imperator without checking or reading all of the reviews carefully. This Imperator was really a pain in the ass. Look like this mouse has all of the mouse problems such as mouse acceleration, jitter, shaking, lift off issue, axis lock, turn off randomly, what's else ^;.;^ ? I updated the mouse to the newest firmware 1.16 and driver 1.02 but these problems have been wandering around and it was really annoying.

Then I bought SteelSeries 4HD last week and hope that could tackle the mouse problem but you know, it could not. The tracking is still not good and unprecise.

So I decide to buy a new mouse and give this stupid annoying mouse to my brother. At least this mouse is bad quality but using it for normal activities on computer such as Word, Web or something like that is fine.

Next mouse, I trust in you guys. Please help me buy a perfect mouse. Thanks!

1. What's your grip style? Palm grip and Fingertips Grip.

2. What's your sensitivity? Well, I am not sure but my Windows desktop sensitivity is 6 and in game is about below 2 in CSS. I usually use high DPI such as 800-1600.

3. What's your maximum budget? about 100-150$.

4. Do you want additional buttons? Yes about 7-8 buttons are good enough for me.

5. What games do you play? CSS, Warcraft III and sometimes other games such as point and click games.

6. Do you mind about prediction? Maybe, but recently I am learning Photoshop so I think prediction relates to my requirement too. You know but this is not an important matter.

7. Other relevant information:
LOD (don't know what this is?) Maybe lift of distance huh? 2-3 cm I guess. Ambidextrous shape: Right hand mouse and I don't mind to try both hand mouse.
Weight: don't mind about this.
Wireless: I prefer a wire mouse to wireless mouse.
Non-braided cord (don't know what this is?)
Glossy finish: No, I want a rough side mouse to help me use the mouse for a long time without sliding.
Button activation force (don't know about what this is?)
Driverless: driver or not is not really a matter but the mouse must work well without out driver.
onboard memory: Yes

I am paying attention to Logitech G500 and SteelSeries Sensei but Sensei have announced and maybe hasn't sale on my country yet and the price has been still unknown either.

Thank for reading this post and if I made some English mistakes, please forgive me because English is not my native language.
post #10 of 6310
Thread Starter 
My suggestions:

@Saberfang
  • Spawn


@LoveKnight

Good for palm (can be fingertiped, but this is subjective)
  • Deathadder
  • G400 (has prediction)

Good for fingertip (can be palmed only if you have ultra small hands):
  • Spawn

About the 7th question: you don't need to input everything in the example; you can input anything else you want, including or not including something from the example. Those were just suggestions, I edited it to make that more clear.
Edited by F u r u y a - 10/12/11 at 6:01pm
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