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post #1141 of 6214
Just don't get a G400... flawed mouse.
post #1142 of 6214
Quote:
Originally Posted by L4dd View Post

The Savu is available again for $29.29, and the DeathAdder 2013 is $55, but users reported that the DeathAdder 2013 has "smoothing":

Savu
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007MPVRQC?ie=UTF8&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links

DeathAdder 2013
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Essential-Ergonomic-RZ01-00840100-R3U1/dp/B00AAS888S/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1373652201&sr=1-1

Was that meant to me? If so, What does Smoothing means? smile.gif

And what about Zowie Ec eVo 1/2 I have heard good things about them? smile.gif
post #1143 of 6214
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mancubus View Post

Just don't get a G400... flawed mouse.

Oh, well i have heard good things about that mouse to? :O
post #1144 of 6214
Quote:
Originally Posted by CerwinVega View Post

Was that meant to me? If so, What does Smoothing means? smile.gif

And what about Zowie Ec eVo 1/2 I have heard good things about them? smile.gif
That was meant for you; both of those are claw/palm mice unless I am mistaken.

"Smoothing" might be unwanted, so maybe someone who experienced it will post here; a lot of people did not experience "smoothing" or report that it was bad...
post #1145 of 6214
Well I know mate... it has got good reviews but I am completely mystified as to how it got them. Its quite clear when you hold that thing it doesn't feel right (although subjective). But the main issue is that the build quality is quite poor with regards to buttons (many of the G400 I bought and then either smashed to pieces or returned came with a loose rattling LMB) also input lag with this particular mouse has been reported and many people say that the cursor quality isn't that good compared to DA/WMO/IME 3.0 (and I tend to agree strongly) or any of the A3090 mice like Savu etc

I mean take it from me... an ex High Master League SC II player that I can tell when a mouse feels right or not and in general Logitech mice have poor cursor quality compared to Razer and Microsoft mice. Their G400 is the only mouse without prediction or accel. Basically what I am saying that compared to their counterparts most Logitech mice are inferior in many ways. The only thing I can give Logitech is the durability and warranty on their products (and their relatively low price compared to some of the more premium gaming brands).
Edited by Mancubus - 7/12/13 at 11:35am
post #1146 of 6214
#1 rule when on OC.net:
just dont listen to childcubus. confused person.
post #1147 of 6214
Quote:
Originally Posted by L4dd View Post

That was meant for you; both of those are claw/palm mice unless I am mistaken.

"Smoothing" might be unwanted, so maybe someone who experienced it will post here; a lot of people did not experience "smoothing" or report that it was bad...

Okey, well i like the DA 2013! So i will look into it! Thanks man!
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Originally Posted by Mancubus View Post

Well I know mate... it has got good reviews but I am completely mystified as to how it got them. Its quite clear when you hold that thing it doesn't feel right (although subjective). But the main issue is that the build quality is quite poor with regards to buttons (many of the G400 I bought and then either smashed to pieces or returned came with a loose rattling LMB) also input lag with this particular mouse has been reported and many people say that the cursor quality isn't that good compared to DA/WMO/IME 3.0 (and I tend to agree strongly) or any of the A3090 mice like Savu etc

I mean take it from me... an ex High Master League SC II player that I can tell when a mouse feels right or not and in general Logitech mice have poor cursor quality compared to Razer and Microsoft mice. Their G400 is the only mouse without prediction or accel. Basically what I am saying that compared to their counterparts most Logitech mice are inferior in many ways. The only thing I can give Logitech is the durability and warranty on their products (and their relatively low price compared to some of the more premium gaming brands).

Oh okey, So any mice with A3090 sensor is OK?
As L4dd recomended the DA 2013, and i must say it looks good i must say, but what mouse do you recomend if you saw what i was looking for? smile.gif
post #1148 of 6214
Of course jkay don't listen to me... you have achieved a lot more right? I for one bet you would never reach the top 1% skill in your game. Back in my day I was actually among the best Master League players in the world so even though I may not know much about hardware technically etc... I definitely can tell you how it feels right and wrong and why.

The G400 e.g while it may be a good FPS mouse for some its an absolutely terrible RTS mouse. There will literally not be a single pro player who uses that mouse while many use the basic optical, TTeSports black and many others.

And also jkay why don't you point out ONE pro player who uses Logitech mice even in FPS games? Please list... because if you can't it shows that Logitech mice aren't very good.

@Vega

I personally would get 3.5G over 4G - its £37 and its quite responsive, ergonomic and fairly lightweight the 4G is almost 2x price for basically no benefit except rubber grips. G100s is great in terms of shape, lightness but the cursor precision isn't that great. CM Storm Recon, Zowie EC1/2, MiCo, AM/FK are all good choices.
Edited by Mancubus - 7/12/13 at 12:08pm
post #1149 of 6214
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mancubus View Post

Of course jkay don't listen to me... you have achieved a lot more right? I for one bet you would never reach the top 1% skill in your game. Back in my day I was actually among the best Master League players in the world so even though I may not know much about hardware technically etc... I definitely can tell you how it feels right and wrong and why.

The G400 e.g while it may be a good FPS mouse for some its an absolutely terrible RTS mouse. There will literally not be a single pro player who uses that mouse while many use the basic optical, TTeSports black and many others.

And also jkay why don't you point out ONE pro player who uses Logitech mice even in FPS games? Please list... because if you can't it shows that Logitech mice aren't very good.

@Vega

I personally would get 3.5G over 4G - its £37 and its quite responsive, ergonomic and fairly lightweight the 4G is almost 2x price for basically no benefit except rubber grips. G100s is great in terms of shape, lightness but the cursor precision isn't that great. CM Storm Recon, Zowie EC1/2, MiCo, AM/FK are all good choices.

Okey, thank you mate!!
post #1150 of 6214
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Originally Posted by CerwinVega View Post

And what about Zowie Ec eVo 1/2 I have heard good things about them? smile.gif
I am sorry for neglecting this part; I was busy...

Zowie mice wih the Avago 3090 sensor have reportedly good tracking like the Savu, but the Savu and Zowie mice reportedly might be picky regarding their tracking surfaces meaning that you might need a particular mousepad.

The Zowie mice interpolate from their highest setting, so some users reported that they experienced input delay/lag from those mice but others have not noticed it or did not think that it was bad, and they have custom lenses for reduced L.O.D., so their maximum perfect control speed might be around 3 m/s.

The Savu has no interpolation, so it might overall have the best combo of response and tracking.

The DeathAdder 2013 has great advertised specifications, such as 200 I.P.S. across all of its settings, 100-6400 C.P.I. settings via increments of 100 C.P.I., and its revised shell that has rubber sides and a textured finish.
Edited by L4dd - 7/12/13 at 1:06pm
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