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post #1291 of 6260
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Hey folks! After some recent lack of success with a number of new mice, I was wondering if you guys offer some suggestions to my apparently very picky needs.


1. What's your grip style?

Fingertip.


2. What's your sensitivity?

27" monitor @ 1920 x 1080. Outside of games I'd like to be able to move my mouse at 9/11 sensitivity @ 1000 dpi but I'll be using 6/11 in-game.


3. What's your maximum budget?

$80, maybe more if it's really worth it.


4. Do you want additional buttons?

Pretty optional but having good, unobtrusive thumb buttons is always nice.


5. What games do you play?

The games I play where precision will be the most relevant will be FPS's such as Battlefield 4 and other shooters.


6. Do you mind about prediction?

Well, from what I hear prediction is a big no-no for gaming so I'd rather not have it.


7. Mouse I'm currently used to?

This one: http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Accessories/Mice-and-Keyboards/KY619AA

I've been using this HP mouse for a long time and the reason why I want to switch to a higher DPI mouse is because I use 9/11 windows mouse sensitivity which causes the staircasing movement for games. That kind of jagged movement in FPS's makes me a little sick. 6/11 sensitivity is too slow for normal Windows operations on this non-adjustable1000 dpi mouse.


8. Mice I've tried and didn't like?

All of these had at least one huge problem for me which is why I took these back.

Logitech G400s - Too big for fingertip grip in a way that stressed my ring finger. Otherwise good.

Logitech G100s - Would have been perfect had the clicks not been so shallow and resistant. It feels like I had to click hard (especially the right click) and even then I still barely felt the click.

Razer Abyssus - Would have been very good but
1. it was limited to just 3 DPI increments
2. the liftoff distance was astronomical (my HP mouse puts this to shame!)
3. bright LED couldn't be turned off

CM Storm Recon - Mouse was too high to the point where I felt like I had to strain my wrist just to get my hand up the mouse. The mouse buttons also didn't have enough resistance for me. Also, I think Logitech spoiled me in terms of custom DPI adjustments because I still didn't like how even with the software you can only have 4 DPI increments.


9. You're so picky!

Yep =P. I guess I'm expecting too much. If only the G100s didn't have terrible clicks I would've 100% kept that one. In a nutshell I guess I just look for a mouse with:
1. Custom DPI adjustments like the Logitech software allows you to.
2. Short liftoff distance.
3. Fingertip grip. I suppose the closer it is to that HP mouse in size the better.

I have a SS Kinzu v2 Pro on the way so we'll see how that goes but until then, I'd very much appreciate and look into any suggestion smile.gif

You could try the Zowie AM. IMO, that's the best shape I have ever seen if you want to fingertip. It does however have some weird nearly imperceptible laggyness and only 3 DPI steps. The clicks are really hard and have a fairly short travel. The mouse also malfunctions at about 2.7-3.3 meters per second.

You could also try the Deathadder 3.5G, although the clicks are a bit squishy and the mouse's weight tends to be too far toward the back when you fingertip grip it.

The Roccat Savu is also an option. I don't know much about it, though.

The Logitech G400 is about the worst thing you could possibly get if you were going for fingertip grip.
post #1292 of 6260
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Originally Posted by Art Vanelay View Post

You could try the Zowie AM. IMO, that's the best shape I have ever seen if you want to fingertip. It does however have some weird nearly imperceptible laggyness and only 3 DPI steps. The clicks are really hard and have a fairly short travel. The mouse also malfunctions at about 2.7-3.3 meters per second.

Looks neat, but it seems that like the Abyssus it only has preset DPI adjustments. This is also actually even thinner than what I expected so I do wonder if that could end up being a good or a bad thing.
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You could also try the Deathadder 3.5G, although the clicks are a bit squishy and the mouse's weight tends to be too far toward the back when you fingertip grip it.

Hmm yeah not sure about this one for quite a few reasons.
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The Roccat Savu is also an option. I don't know much about it, though.

Saw this at the store. Will keep this in mind though people seem to talk about the Kova+ a lot too as far as Roccat mice go.
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The Logitech G400 is about the worst thing you could possibly get if you were going for fingertip grip.

Yeah I tried something new and was burned for it tongue.gif
post #1293 of 6260
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Originally Posted by BaloneyOs View Post

Looks neat, but it seems that like the Abyssus it only has preset DPI adjustments. This is also actually even thinner than what I expected so I do wonder if that could end up being a good or a bad thing.

Well, if there's anything that that mouse has taught me, it's that I have a weird grip. I like the feel of that mouse as a palm/hybrid palm grip type as well.

I'd like to note that I'm still not even sure that I can feel the reported weird slight lagginess. I only stopped using that mouse because I have a tendency to hit its max tracking speed sometimes.
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Hmm yeah not sure about this one for quite a few reasons.
I've got one. It's a durable mouse and has served me well, but the buttons have too much travel and I can't palm grip it nicely.
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Saw this at the store. Will keep this in mind though people seem to talk about the Kova+ a lot too as far as Roccat mice go.
IIRC, the Savu and the Kone pure optical are the only ones with the Avago 3090 sensor. I've not heard much against them, but I haven't had any experience with them.
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Yeah I tried something new and was burned for it tongue.gif
Yeah, that's how I felt about the RAT 7 I bought. It broke so I was able to return it, though.
Edited by Art Vanelay - 9/21/13 at 7:43pm
post #1294 of 6260
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Originally Posted by Art Vanelay View Post

You could try the Zowie AM. IMO, that's the best shape I have ever seen if you want to fingertip. It does however have some weird nearly imperceptible laggyness and only 3 DPI steps. The clicks are really hard and have a fairly short travel. The mouse also malfunctions at about 2.7-3.3 meters per second.

I think the FK has improved on the shape of the AM
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The Logitech G400 is about the worst thing you could possibly get if you were going for fingertip grip.

Agreed. That lip on the right side drives me nuts!
post #1295 of 6260
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Originally Posted by Emospence View Post

I think the FK has improved on the shape of the AM

After using the WMO for some time, I've figured out that I really don't like the curved inward sides as much as I would have though. I have nowhere to put my ring finger.
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Agreed. That lip on the right side drives me nuts!
It adds some grip when you're palming it, though. It's just not a good mouse for anything besides palm grip.
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1. What's your grip style?
Fingertip Grip with a little bit of palming.


2. What's your sensitivity?
800 DPI, 6/11 in Windows, Acceleration OFF, 2.0 in CS:GO for example.
So mid-low I guess

3. What's your maximum budget?
Don't really have one. But the mouse shouldn't be unreasonably overpriced

4. Do you want additional buttons?
Yes. I need at least 2 extra buttons (thumb-buttons) on the left side. So 5 in total.

5. What games do you play?
FPS only. CS:GO, CS 1.6, Quake etc.

6. Do you mind about prediction?
Yes. I want prediction/angle snapping OFF.
I'd also like to have as little acceleration of any kind as possible.
Low LoD would be nice too.

7. Other relevant information:
I have pretty small hands - 7" (18cm). So keep that in mind. A G400 for example is a little too big for me.
I want a mouse that can be lifted very easily. I have a DA 3.5G and don't like it because the sides are slippery and I have problems lifting the mouse up when my hands get sweaty.
A lip on the right side (like the G400 has it) would be a plus, as would be rubberized sides.


Any suggestions?
post #1297 of 6260
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Originally Posted by RentoN View Post

1. What's your grip style?
Fingertip Grip with a little bit of palming.


2. What's your sensitivity?
800 DPI, 6/11 in Windows, Acceleration OFF, 2.0 in CS:GO for example.
So mid-low I guess

3. What's your maximum budget?
Don't really have one. But the mouse shouldn't be unreasonably overpriced

4. Do you want additional buttons?
Yes. I need at least 2 extra buttons (thumb-buttons) on the left side. So 5 in total.

5. What games do you play?
FPS only. CS:GO, CS 1.6, Quake etc.

6. Do you mind about prediction?
Yes. I want prediction/angle snapping OFF.
I'd also like to have as little acceleration of any kind as possible.
Low LoD would be nice too.

7. Other relevant information:
I have pretty small hands - 7" (18cm). So keep that in mind. A G400 for example is a little too big for me.
I want a mouse that can be lifted very easily. I have a DA 3.5G and don't like it because the sides are slippery and I have problems lifting the mouse up when my hands get sweaty.
A lip on the right side (like the G400 has it) would be a plus, as would be rubberized sides.


Any suggestions?
Wow, someone actually gave useful information on their sensitivity. That's a first. tongue.gif

You could try a Zowie FK. It seems to be pretty well optimized for small hands, and it's overall a pretty good mouse.

things to be aware of are that the buttons are fairly stiff, some people say the mouse feet are too thin, there is some near imperceptible lag at the 450 DPI setting, and the DPI steps are 450, 1150 and 2300 only. Other than those possible issues, it seems like a good mouse.

The LOD's low, the tracking is flawless (it spazzes out at above ~3 metres per second though), and the build quality is better than what I've seen from Logitech or Razer.
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For RentoN, would a Savu or Pure Kone Optical be good?
post #1299 of 6260
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Yeah I tried something new and was burned for it tongue.gif
Yeah the Logitech mice are really only good for palm and palm/claw. Fantastic mice that rarely die, but if you can't get a comfortable grip on them its useless.
Take a look at the Cyborg MOUS 9. Its a little expensive, but would fit your hand perfectly. Also look at the Steelseries Sensi. I believe that one should work too as its a fairly short mouse.
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Yeah the Logitech mice are really only good for palm and palm/claw. Fantastic mice that rarely die
Unless you damage the cable, which is way too easy.
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