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Originally Posted by Formel View Post

Interesting, where can I find more information like tracking speed or something else?
Some people out there might have posted screenshots from a program called Enotus Mouse Test that look like the following screenshot,



but I don't find those helpful. A better way (imo) to test control speed is to get the mouse yourself, get in-game, lower your sensitivity to at least 100cm/360, make a bullet mark on a wall, move your mouse horizontally to the left or right across your mousepad, then swipe your mouse back to where it was at various speeds ranging from typical in game quick swipes to your fastest possible swipes, check how close you are to the bullet mark you made each time, and repeat.*

There are only two good results, the rest are bad. I'll describe both the good ones and one bad one.

Negative Accel (BAD): the cursor slows down and stops short of the bullet mark without shooting off in another direction unless it malfunctions
http://youtu.be/RaOK-zZbdQY?t=20s

Low Malfunction Speed, but no accel (GOOD): the cursor malfunctions before hitting any accel curve. The way you determine if you can use a mouse like this is if you don't hit the malfunction speed while actually playing and not testing.
http://youtu.be/cu1I9P5tkPo?t=20s

High Malfunction Speed (VERY GOOD): cursor nearly always returns to the bullet mark.
http://youtu.be/Fbx0eX_vhTo?t=20s

*So buy your mouse from a store with a good return policy (e.g. Fry's Electronics or Amazon.com).
Edited by cuad - 10/4/13 at 10:25pm
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post #1332 of 6214
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Originally Posted by Art Vanelay View Post

Be aware that that mouse can only do 450, 1150 and 2300 DPI steps. There's also a max tracking speed of about 3 metres per second, above which, the cursor will fly around the screen.

Also the clicks on that mouse are a lot harder than on the deathadder.

Actually only the perfect control speed seems to be around 3.3 m/s, malfunction is much higher. Well, at least for me the cursor on the AM and FK never flew around the screen which it would for the Savu, Deathadder etc.
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1. What's your grip style? Fingertip Grip

2. What's your sensitivity? 800 - 1200 dpi 6/11

3. What's your maximum budget? 50$

4. Do you want additional buttons? Two on the side

5. What games do you play? FPS "counter strike, battlefield"

6. Do you mind about prediction? No
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Actually only the perfect control speed seems to be around 3.3 m/s, malfunction is much higher. Well, at least for me the cursor on the AM and FK never flew around the screen which it would for the Savu, Deathadder etc.
Really? I have never been able to make my Deathadder, G400 or MX518 jump, but I can make the Zowie AM do it pretty easily. Sometimes when I was doing AWP flick shots, I would have my cursor fly around a bit.

On Enotus, I managed to get approximately 2.7-3.1 metres per second max tracking speed, but I've never thought about how much faster the speed at which it jumped was.
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Originally Posted by Art Vanelay View Post

Really? I have never been able to make my Deathadder, G400 or MX518 jump, but I can make the Zowie AM do it pretty easily. Sometimes when I was doing AWP flick shots, I would have my cursor fly around a bit.

On Enotus, I managed to get approximately 2.7-3.1 metres per second max tracking speed, but I've never thought about how much faster the speed at which it jumped was.

Well, I mainly the Savu didn't have a high malfunction speed, especially on the talent. When going too fast I would sometimes end up looking at the floor. I could reproduce that in paint too. With the Zowies it stayed a straight line. My guess is that the top speed gets capped at some point (just a guess though...)

My FK also has a real PCS of 3.5 m/s on the Qck Heavy, so maybe it's faster in general than your AM (tolerances and stuff might affect that)
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Mod plse remove-thnx

Posted in a better and more productive place wink.gif
Edited by kkorky - 10/7/13 at 10:52pm
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Well, I mainly the Savu didn't have a high malfunction speed, especially on the talent. When going too fast I would sometimes end up looking at the floor. I could reproduce that in paint too. With the Zowies it stayed a straight line. My guess is that the top speed gets capped at some point (just a guess though...)

My FK also has a real PCS of 3.5 m/s on the Qck Heavy, so maybe it's faster in general than your AM (tolerances and stuff might affect that)
It seems to just stop when you swipe it too fast. It's nowhere near as good at high speeds as my g400 and deathadder.
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Originally Posted by ADHDadditiv View Post

Wait for the Logitech G602 to come out, seems right up your ally. Either that or the G700 when its on sale. thumb.gif

*EDIT*
Also Logitech's G software has gotten a massive improvement as of recent. Ive never had a single problem with it and my G700 over a 2 month period.

Thanks for the feedback. The G602 is wireles and though I prefer wired mice it looks like Logitech implemented it well in this case, so I'll have to keep my eye on it. It's good to hear that their Gaming software doesn't have the issues the older Setpoint drives have as several of those issues are still unresolved (random acceleration, for example).
Edited by NLight95 - 10/5/13 at 6:46pm
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Originally Posted by L4dd View Post

NLight95, I would get the Recon after the DeathAdder 2013; you might not mind the algorithm of the DeathAdder 2013 if you use 4,000 C.P.I.

Does the Razer software support scrolling where you hold down either the up/down dpi button (re-assigned from the default actions) to continuous scroll up/down a document or web page? It's one feature Setpoint has that I've always appreciated. Instead of using the scroll wheel all I have to do is hold down the up/down dpi button and it keeps on scrolling. I know Corsair's software doesn't support this because you have to click the up or down button repeatedly to scroll so many lines at a time.
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1. What's your grip style? - Kind of a palm / claw hybrid; My palm touches the mouse but I use my thumb and fingers in a sort of claw position to move the mouse / click

2. What's your sensitivity? - I play at around 1200DPI

3. What's your maximum budget? - Depends on the quality of the mouse, but under £50 GBP if possible

4. Do you want additional buttons? - One or two side buttons would be great

5. What games do you play? - StarCraft II, FPS games

6. Do you mind about prediction? - Rather not have any sort of prediction / acceleration

7. Other relevant information:

Would like a mouse with a nice design for right hand, feels good in the hand, something that isn't as heavy as the Deathadder 2013, nice tactile buttons
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