Hi folks :-)
I'm quite desperate on my search for a good mouse and that's my story about it.
Top attributes looked for :
- suitable size. My hand measures 20 cm in lenght and 11.5 cm in width measured as in the pic below
- thumb buttons atleast partially in vertival orientation
1. Grip style
mixture of palm grip and fingertip: it "rests"its back against my palm while moved mostly by fingers, about 95% of time NO movement of the hand beside "angle-movements in the wrist.
atm between 2400 and 3200 dpi, depending on game and possible settings of mouse sensitivity of the game.
3. Budget (have to change it in USD)
about 100 $, if it really fits but no objections on getting something more economical.
4. Additional buttons
YEEESS (see point 7)
5. What games
space sims (Freelancer and mods, complete X-series by EGOSOFT, Freespace2 OpenSource mods), plan on getting all the new sims in the pipeline : X-Rebirth (already released), Frontier Elite (I'm a supporter), Chris Roberts StarCitizen (not supported by me, not sure if he really finish it [remember Freelancer?]).
sry, don't know, what you mean
want/need at least 4 thumb buttons that are NOT placed in a horizontal line (see below), everythingelse : not too important
My "HID" history:
Since I come from space-FLYING-sims (SiniStar, StarLancer, Decent II, Freespace, X-extended, etc.) flightsticks were my concern for gaming. Everything else i did with my beloved logitech trackballs with the cordless trackman fx being my alltime favorite.
Had no probs with it playing SimCity, all the Civilazation games, even manged to play Homeworld I with fun. But then came FREELANCER and its f*****g mouse control. EGOSOFT unfortunatly jumped on this wagon with X3 and joystick-controlable games almost vanished (so I had to stick too the "old" ones
I tried a lot of mice. None really felt better than my trackball until ... ebay "gifted" me a
Genius Wireless Optical mouse
with its thumbbuttons placed above each other than in a horizontal line like almost everybody else (and they still do so, like the lemmings). It's so much more ergonomic than having them in a row. Why ? Easy: you only have to use ONE joint moving your thumb up-n-down, while you have to use TWO joint to move it back-n-forward. I don't understand why this concept is used sooo rarely.
Suddenly using a mouse could be ... FUN ! For more comfort I "pimped" it a bit (what I mean with that you might see later). But in due time its 800 dpi weren't enough anymore, and I was abit harrased by the continous battery changing (in my eyes biggst issue with all of the wireless bunch), since it started malfunctioning when low on power, quite disturbing while you're online in a grand melee (i.e. Freelancer)
. Also I looked for something with more buttons/gamefunctions on it.
So I came across the cyborg gaming mouse.
First I was quite dissapointed with it, unusual feel of clicking and MUCH too shallow, MUCH too narrow for my paws and I skipped it. After trying various others I switched to a microsoft sidewinder with its sturdy buttons - again - ABOVE each other, but quite late, since it took "some time" to get it in a proper pricerange via ebay. But it lacks the desired higher number of thumbuttons as well as a proper/free button-programming ability.
Seeing all the MadCatz Rats I remembered my Cyborg mouse - and started to "pimp" it to my ergonomics.
I would call it now rather a GOLEM.
But now - it`s almost a perfect fit. The Back/forward buttons, the silveries at an angle, are easy and comfortable to reach, well distinguishable as well as the lower thumbutton. Even if the "thumbutton panel" with its 4way-button is still a bit shallow its down and back function are easy to use for me, what makes it 5 freely programmable/macroable thumb buttons to my disposion.
It has its drawbacks - beside the look. The scrollwheel's a bit narrow/small and the scrollbutton to easily activated unwanted, as well as esp. the leftclick (was so already before I pimped it). And I start to get a feeling, that the sensor and/or its electronics are - slowly - degrading (get sometimes sudden cursor-jumps or unintended cursor moves across the whole screen, short moments of no-reaction on moving as well on button response).
I've tested so far :
GREAT design, perfect surface feeling, almost perfect layout of thumb buttons, fantastic balanced clickpoints of left/right mouse button, for me a bit too short/small otherwise (would have been something to be easily "pimped").
BUT the click for the thumb buttons and this was its killer for me : FUUULL CATASTROPHY, too much force needed, almost no answer, it was like sqeezing a rubber ball. Don't know, if that was changed with the M95, think it only got a different/new sensor.
But if anyone, who has tested/played both- M90 as well as M95 - could confirm, that also the thumbuttons mechanics are changed I might give the M95 a shot.
maaan I'm dissapointed. Isn't logitech rendered as a "high quality topnotch" maker for peripherals ?? For my use too small in lenght and width, at least best height I've tested yet. The running time without cabel: crap (but who really needs wireless for a gaming mouse). Beside left/right click all bottons also quite "wobbly", baad feedback (ok, got a used one, but then: quality ?) and positioning of the thumbottons: soso, the M90s definitly way better on that.
Steelseries WoW mouse
the pinkyrest's not long enough my pinky still rubs over the mousepad, body is - again - a wee bit too short and esp. not wide enough for being comfortable to my hand. The "4d-thumbbutton is a bit too small so that I sometimes activate an unwanted key. Also their clickpoint - as well of the left/rightclick - is a bit too "easy".
R.A.T. 7 M.M.O
Even without any additional weight too heavy/weight badly placed for my taste to lift it comfortably, have to tilt it over the lower edge of the pinkyrest. The pinky/ringfinger rest: uncomfortable with its backside edge (should be "filled" somehow) and no go "grip" on it. Too shallow for my hands even with the "bigger" palm rest it comes with. Thumb buttons a whee bit to hard to click but that's ok, no unwanted keyactivation.
Steelseries WoW Cataclysm
That one I'm actualy testing: GOOD body design, almost perfect size, thumbottons mainly in a horizontal row (not so fond of) and also quite (too ?) easily/unwanted activated as well as the left/rightclick (same as WoW mouse).
Well, that's it. Rather lenghty, eh ? But you asked for as detailed information as possible.
Now, anyone with a suggestion ?