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I prefer wired mice, but if someone wants or needs wireless mice, wireless operation would then be warranted.
I think your using the word, warranted, wrong (either that or Im not remembering what that means). Your making it sound like if someone doesn't absolutely need to use a wireless mouse, then they shouldn't.
Not tryin to rag on you, thats just what your making it sound like. wink.gif
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Hi folks :-)
I'm quite desperate on my search for a good mouse and that's my story about it.
Top attributes looked for :
- suitable size. My hand measures 20 cm in lenght and 11.5 cm in width measured as in the pic below

- thumb buttons atleast partially in vertival orientation

1. Grip style
mixture of palm grip and fingertip: it "rests"its back against my palm while moved mostly by fingers, about 95% of time NO movement of the hand beside "angle-movements in the wrist.

2. Sensitivity
atm between 2400 and 3200 dpi, depending on game and possible settings of mouse sensitivity of the game.

3. Budget (have to change it in USD)
about 100 $, if it really fits but no objections on getting something more economical.biggrin.gif

4. Additional buttons
YEEESS (see point 7)

5. What games
space sims (Freelancer and mods, complete X-series by EGOSOFT, Freespace2 OpenSource mods), plan on getting all the new sims in the pipeline : X-Rebirth (already released), Frontier Elite (I'm a supporter), Chris Roberts StarCitizen (not supported by me, not sure if he really finish it [remember Freelancer?]).

6. Prediction
sry, don't know, what you mean

7. Others
want/need at least 4 thumb buttons that are NOT placed in a horizontal line (see below), everythingelse : not too important

My "HID" history:

Since I come from space-FLYING-sims (SiniStar, StarLancer, Decent II, Freespace, X-extended, etc.) flightsticks were my concern for gaming. Everything else i did with my beloved logitech trackballs with the cordless trackman fx being my alltime favorite.

Had no probs with it playing SimCity, all the Civilazation games, even manged to play Homeworld I with fun. But then came FREELANCER and its f*****g mouse control. EGOSOFT unfortunatly jumped on this wagon with X3 and joystick-controlable games almost vanished (so I had to stick too the "old" ones tongue.gif ).
I tried a lot of mice. None really felt better than my trackball until ... ebay "gifted" me a

Genius Wireless Optical mouse
with its thumbbuttons placed above each other than in a horizontal line like almost everybody else (and they still do so, like the lemmings). It's so much more ergonomic than having them in a row. Why ? Easy: you only have to use ONE joint moving your thumb up-n-down, while you have to use TWO joint to move it back-n-forward. I don't understand why this concept is used sooo rarely.
Suddenly using a mouse could be ... FUN ! For more comfort I "pimped" it a bit (what I mean with that you might see later). But in due time its 800 dpi weren't enough anymore, and I was abit harrased by the continous battery changing (in my eyes biggst issue with all of the wireless bunch), since it started malfunctioning when low on power, quite disturbing while you're online in a grand melee (i.e. Freelancer)aaskull.gif. Also I looked for something with more buttons/gamefunctions on it.

So I came across the cyborg gaming mouse.
First I was quite dissapointed with it, unusual feel of clicking and MUCH too shallow, MUCH too narrow for my paws and I skipped it. After trying various others I switched to a microsoft sidewinder with its sturdy buttons - again - ABOVE each other, but quite late, since it took "some time" to get it in a proper pricerange via ebay. But it lacks the desired higher number of thumbuttons as well as a proper/free button-programming ability.
Seeing all the MadCatz Rats I remembered my Cyborg mouse - and started to "pimp" it to my ergonomics.

I would call it now rather a GOLEM.
But now - it`s almost a perfect fit. The Back/forward buttons, the silveries at an angle, are easy and comfortable to reach, well distinguishable as well as the lower thumbutton. Even if the "thumbutton panel" with its 4way-button is still a bit shallow its down and back function are easy to use for me, what makes it 5 freely programmable/macroable thumb buttons to my disposion.
It has its drawbacks - beside the look. The scrollwheel's a bit narrow/small and the scrollbutton to easily activated unwanted, as well as esp. the leftclick (was so already before I pimped it). And I start to get a feeling, that the sensor and/or its electronics are - slowly - degrading (get sometimes sudden cursor-jumps or unintended cursor moves across the whole screen, short moments of no-reaction on moving as well on button response).

I've tested so far :

Corsair M90
GREAT design, perfect surface feeling, almost perfect layout of thumb buttons, fantastic balanced clickpoints of left/right mouse button, for me a bit too short/small otherwise (would have been something to be easily "pimped").
BUT the click for the thumb buttons and this was its killer for me : FUUULL CATASTROPHY, too much force needed, almost no answer, it was like sqeezing a rubber ball. Don't know, if that was changed with the M95, think it only got a different/new sensor.
But if anyone, who has tested/played both- M90 as well as M95 - could confirm, that also the thumbuttons mechanics are changed I might give the M95 a shot.

Logitech 700
maaan I'm dissapointed. Isn't logitech rendered as a "high quality topnotch" maker for peripherals ?? For my use too small in lenght and width, at least best height I've tested yet. The running time without cabel: crap (but who really needs wireless for a gaming mouse). Beside left/right click all bottons also quite "wobbly", baad feedback (ok, got a used one, but then: quality ?) and positioning of the thumbottons: soso, the M90s definitly way better on that.

Steelseries WoW mouse
the pinkyrest's not long enough my pinky still rubs over the mousepad, body is - again - a wee bit too short and esp. not wide enough for being comfortable to my hand. The "4d-thumbbutton is a bit too small so that I sometimes activate an unwanted key. Also their clickpoint - as well of the left/rightclick - is a bit too "easy".

R.A.T. 7 M.M.O
Even without any additional weight too heavy/weight badly placed for my taste to lift it comfortably, have to tilt it over the lower edge of the pinkyrest. The pinky/ringfinger rest: uncomfortable with its backside edge (should be "filled" somehow) and no go "grip" on it. Too shallow for my hands even with the "bigger" palm rest it comes with. Thumb buttons a whee bit to hard to click but that's ok, no unwanted keyactivation.

Steelseries WoW Cataclysm
That one I'm actualy testing: GOOD body design, almost perfect size, thumbottons mainly in a horizontal row (not so fond of) and also quite (too ?) easily/unwanted activated as well as the left/rightclick (same as WoW mouse).

Well, that's it. Rather lenghty, eh ? But you asked for as detailed information as possible.

Now, anyone with a suggestion ?
post #1563 of 6288
Hi all biggrin.gif
I'm looking for a suggestion about mouse + mousepad

1. What's your grip style?
Claw Grip
2. What's your sensitivity?
Med/high
3. What's your maximum budget?
dun know
4. Do you want additional buttons?
2 if possible right side
5. What games do you play?
Bf3 tf2 ac4 wow and others
6. Do you mind about prediction?
No
7. Other relevant information:
wired mouse pliz


Mousepad

7. Hard or cloth?
Cloth
8. Rough or smooth?
Smooth
9. Which size approximately?
small (the one i am using now is 215x245 mm)
10. What's your maximum budget?
dun know


Thanks!! thumb.gif


p.s. i have a question too: steelseries sensei (raw) & steelseries qck mini works well altogether? (some says yes some says no i'm confused :V)
post #1564 of 6288
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Originally Posted by NucNuc View Post

Hi folks :-)
I'm quite desperate on my search for a good mouse and that's my story about it.
Top attributes looked for :
- suitable size. My hand measures 20 cm in lenght and 11.5 cm in width measured as in the pic below

- thumb buttons atleast partially in vertival orientation

1. Grip style
mixture of palm grip and fingertip: it "rests"its back against my palm while moved mostly by fingers, about 95% of time NO movement of the hand beside "angle-movements in the wrist.

2. Sensitivity
atm between 2400 and 3200 dpi, depending on game and possible settings of mouse sensitivity of the game.

3. Budget (have to change it in USD)
about 100 $, if it really fits but no objections on getting something more economical.biggrin.gif

4. Additional buttons
YEEESS (see point 7)

5. What games
space sims (Freelancer and mods, complete X-series by EGOSOFT, Freespace2 OpenSource mods), plan on getting all the new sims in the pipeline : X-Rebirth (already released), Frontier Elite (I'm a supporter), Chris Roberts StarCitizen (not supported by me, not sure if he really finish it [remember Freelancer?]).

6. Prediction
sry, don't know, what you mean

7. Others
want/need at least 4 thumb buttons that are NOT placed in a horizontal line (see below), everythingelse : not too important

My "HID" history:

Since I come from space-FLYING-sims (SiniStar, StarLancer, Decent II, Freespace, X-extended, etc.) flightsticks were my concern for gaming. Everything else i did with my beloved logitech trackballs with the cordless trackman fx being my alltime favorite.

Had no probs with it playing SimCity, all the Civilazation games, even manged to play Homeworld I with fun. But then came FREELANCER and its f*****g mouse control. EGOSOFT unfortunatly jumped on this wagon with X3 and joystick-controlable games almost vanished (so I had to stick too the "old" ones tongue.gif ).
I tried a lot of mice. None really felt better than my trackball until ... ebay "gifted" me a

Genius Wireless Optical mouse
with its thumbbuttons placed above each other than in a horizontal line like almost everybody else (and they still do so, like the lemmings). It's so much more ergonomic than having them in a row. Why ? Easy: you only have to use ONE joint moving your thumb up-n-down, while you have to use TWO joint to move it back-n-forward. I don't understand why this concept is used sooo rarely.
Suddenly using a mouse could be ... FUN ! For more comfort I "pimped" it a bit (what I mean with that you might see later). But in due time its 800 dpi weren't enough anymore, and I was abit harrased by the continous battery changing (in my eyes biggst issue with all of the wireless bunch), since it started malfunctioning when low on power, quite disturbing while you're online in a grand melee (i.e. Freelancer)aaskull.gif. Also I looked for something with more buttons/gamefunctions on it.

So I came across the cyborg gaming mouse.
First I was quite dissapointed with it, unusual feel of clicking and MUCH too shallow, MUCH too narrow for my paws and I skipped it. After trying various others I switched to a microsoft sidewinder with its sturdy buttons - again - ABOVE each other, but quite late, since it took "some time" to get it in a proper pricerange via ebay. But it lacks the desired higher number of thumbuttons as well as a proper/free button-programming ability.
Seeing all the MadCatz Rats I remembered my Cyborg mouse - and started to "pimp" it to my ergonomics.

I would call it now rather a GOLEM.
But now - it`s almost a perfect fit. The Back/forward buttons, the silveries at an angle, are easy and comfortable to reach, well distinguishable as well as the lower thumbutton. Even if the "thumbutton panel" with its 4way-button is still a bit shallow its down and back function are easy to use for me, what makes it 5 freely programmable/macroable thumb buttons to my disposion.
It has its drawbacks - beside the look. The scrollwheel's a bit narrow/small and the scrollbutton to easily activated unwanted, as well as esp. the leftclick (was so already before I pimped it). And I start to get a feeling, that the sensor and/or its electronics are - slowly - degrading (get sometimes sudden cursor-jumps or unintended cursor moves across the whole screen, short moments of no-reaction on moving as well on button response).

I've tested so far :

Corsair M90
GREAT design, perfect surface feeling, almost perfect layout of thumb buttons, fantastic balanced clickpoints of left/right mouse button, for me a bit too short/small otherwise (would have been something to be easily "pimped").
BUT the click for the thumb buttons and this was its killer for me : FUUULL CATASTROPHY, too much force needed, almost no answer, it was like sqeezing a rubber ball. Don't know, if that was changed with the M95, think it only got a different/new sensor.
But if anyone, who has tested/played both- M90 as well as M95 - could confirm, that also the thumbuttons mechanics are changed I might give the M95 a shot.

Logitech 700
maaan I'm dissapointed. Isn't logitech rendered as a "high quality topnotch" maker for peripherals ?? For my use too small in lenght and width, at least best height I've tested yet. The running time without cabel: crap (but who really needs wireless for a gaming mouse). Beside left/right click all bottons also quite "wobbly", baad feedback (ok, got a used one, but then: quality ?) and positioning of the thumbottons: soso, the M90s definitly way better on that.

Steelseries WoW mouse
the pinkyrest's not long enough my pinky still rubs over the mousepad, body is - again - a wee bit too short and esp. not wide enough for being comfortable to my hand. The "4d-thumbbutton is a bit too small so that I sometimes activate an unwanted key. Also their clickpoint - as well of the left/rightclick - is a bit too "easy".

R.A.T. 7 M.M.O
Even without any additional weight too heavy/weight badly placed for my taste to lift it comfortably, have to tilt it over the lower edge of the pinkyrest. The pinky/ringfinger rest: uncomfortable with its backside edge (should be "filled" somehow) and no go "grip" on it. Too shallow for my hands even with the "bigger" palm rest it comes with. Thumb buttons a whee bit to hard to click but that's ok, no unwanted keyactivation.

Steelseries WoW Cataclysm
That one I'm actualy testing: GOOD body design, almost perfect size, thumbottons mainly in a horizontal row (not so fond of) and also quite (too ?) easily/unwanted activated as well as the left/rightclick (same as WoW mouse).

Well, that's it. Rather lenghty, eh ? But you asked for as detailed information as possible.

Now, anyone with a suggestion ?

You could try out the Razer Deathadder 3.5G or 4G (4G has noticeable amount of smoothing, but it probably doesn't matter if you're not playing FPS)

The Zowie EC1 Evo is a similar shape but less curved on the edges. It's also pretty good. The buttons are very hard and the lift off distance is very low.
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Hi Art, any ideas on my post?

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Originally Posted by Art Vanelay View Post

G400 is pretty good if you want to palm grip I guess.

I'm not sure how much your mouse really matters if you're mainly playing LoL.

I like the G400 mostly, it's a bit big (long) though. Any smaller options? Also, my grip is actually probably closer to fingertip, they seem to do most of the movement at least, now that I'm paying attention...
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I like the G400 mostly, it's a bit big (long) though. Any smaller options? Also, my grip is actually probably closer to fingertip, they seem to do most of the movement at least, now that I'm paying attention...

Now I don't know what you wrote in your first post but if you like fingertip maybe G100s?
post #1567 of 6288
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Originally Posted by daav1d View Post

Now I don't know what you wrote in your first post but if you like fingertip maybe G100s?

Yeah, just noticed that, I'll repost and make the change I mentioned:

1. What's your grip style? Fingertip/palm (palm touches, but most movement seems to come from the fingertips)

2. What's your sensitivity? medium/medium-high

3. What's your maximum budget? preferably no more than ~50, could go a little higher for quality. Definitely no more than $100.

4. Do you want additional buttons? Sure, but not too many. My current mouse (logitech m705) is fine for me, but the left mouse button is dying.

5. What games do you play? League of Legends mostly lately. Lots of web browsing and a variety of other games from time to time.

6. Do you mind about prediction? No idea, never really noticed it. I imagine it would be jarring if this were present and obvious on the mouse. I guess I'd rather avoid it.

7. Other relevant information: I don't want anything ridiculously heavy, but some weight feels nice. I don't need anything totally amazing, just looking for something that works well for me and is comfortable/high quality.
post #1568 of 6288
Hi guys, I need a mouse to replace my G500 that I use at home so that I can bring it to work to replace my G5. I work on 4 screens, so 2000 dpi isn't enough.

1. What's your grip style?

Claw.

2. What's your sensitivity?

800 to 4000 dpi (3x1440p screens at home), usually playing games at 1600 or 2400 DPI (I use 5 settings total: 800, 1600, 2400, 3200, 4000). This is very important for me.

3. What's your maximum budget?

No maximum.

4. Do you want additional buttons?

I want two or three thumb buttons (not more) and preferably dedicated DPI buttons with an indicator like on my G500.

5. What games do you play?

FPS, RPG, RTS.

6. Do you mind about prediction?

I don't want prediction.

7. Other relevant information:

I'm happy with my G500, but I would like to see what else is out there. I use a SteelSeries 4D mousepad.

I don't need anything too high tech or gimmicky and I'm not a fan of those transformer-looking mice. I don't mind paying more to get the best. I would prefer a laser sensor, but in the end I just want the best tracking.

I've been looking at the DeathAdder 2013, but I don't like that it doesn't have dedicated DPI buttons and a DPI indicator. I also think it's getting replaced because it's on sale at most stores and shows as discontinued at Newegg.ca.

Thanks!
Edited by fomoz - 12/3/13 at 8:16am
post #1569 of 6288
1. What's your grip style?
finger (with some palm)

2. What's your sensitivity?
medium/high
i use small pad(22cm horizontally), and i like to be able to turn arround 360 with one sweep, i can sweep windows screen twice with current sensitivity.

3. What's your maximum budget?
70dlls

4. Do you want additional buttons?
yes, for thumb

5. What games do you play?
fps (arma2) , and lol

6. Do you mind about prediction?
yes, i think it wont be good for arma2

7. Other relevant information:
i am using microsoft 1.1a, pretty happy with it, but i want something better
light or medium weight
hand dimention : 10.6cm , 18.5cm
i think the g400 or some mionix might do the trick, but i would like some recommendations
Edited by MoPs - 12/4/13 at 11:31am
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So I'm looking for something to replace the Kana after failing to enjoy the spawn shape. I don't like the switches or the massive side button the Kana but I do enjoy how light and small it is. My ideal mouse would be a similar shape to the Kana but without massive side buttons(I do want some side buttons), similar weight (under 90g) but with much better switches (the TTC on the Kana feel like I am pressing on muddy cement) and similar small size ( I own a sensei and it's too big for my hand).

I use fingertip and 800 dpi. Have been considering Zowie FK or Roccat Savu but I hear bad things about Savu and I don't know about the shape.

I should add that I love how short the spawn is but it's too wide, so a shorter skinnier mouse similiar to the spawn would be great too.
Edited by esoterikk - 12/3/13 at 11:57pm
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