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optical mice typically track better on soft pads and laser mice tend to track better on hard pads. optical mice also tend to require you to lift your mouse off the pad at a lower distance to stop tracking so you have to move it less if you're re-positioning the mouse on the pad. Optical mice have no build in acceleration, which is generally desirable.

Sorry, have to disagree on multiple points.

Optical mice be it Laser or LED have better imaging on the more common grainy plastic surfaces designed for gaming. Cloth pads on the other hand tend to offer "easier" IPS tracking speed compatibility with LED devices.

Not sure what you mean about the lift off distance but this honestly depends on the hardware itself.

Optical mice regardless of illumination methodology have small variance of acceleration. The whole mentality that "laser illuminated mice = accel" is slewed. Only perceivably reflects UGS 9500/9800.

Any alternative laser driven architecture is comparable to what's considered a good LED design.
Edited by Skylit - 12/11/13 at 7:50am
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Sorry, have to disagree on multiple points.

Optical mice be it Laser or LED have better imaging on the more common grainy plastic surfaces designed for gaming. Cloth pads on the other hand tend to offer "easier" IPS tracking speed compatibility with LED devices.

Not sure what you mean about the lift off distance but this honestly depends on the hardware itself.

Optical mice regardless of illumination methodology have small variance of acceleration. The whole mentality that "laser illuminated mice = accel" is slewed. Only perceivably reflects UGS 9500/9800.

Any alternative laser driven architecture is comparable to what's considered a good LED design.

IPS?
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post #1624 of 6221
is he saying that basically its easier to use higher IPS on soft pads and led mice users tend to have higher IPS?
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I'm saying its easier to achieve the highest possible tracking speeds on most cloth surfaces.

On the flip side, pictures of surfaces aren't as accurate as they could be.
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Any alternative laser driven architecture is comparable to what's considered a good LED design.
The only other LASER illuminated optical sensors I've seen are the ADNS-6010 and variants and the Cypress sensor.

I've heard that both the Avago-6010 and Cypress LASER illuminated sensors had a relatively low maximum tracking speed. Unless I have the wrong impression, the ADNS-3090 still remains the best choice for people who want to play FPS at a low sensitivity.
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The only other LASER illuminated optical sensors I've seen are the ADNS-6010 and variants and the Cypress sensor.

I've heard that both the Avago-6010 and Cypress LASER illuminated sensors had a relatively low maximum tracking speed. Unless I have the wrong impression, the ADNS-3090 still remains the best choice for people who want to play FPS at a low sensitivity.

Philips twin eye (Yes, optical) and many alternative Avago/Pixart/ST variants would also qualify regardless of rating.

I'm just trying to prevent this silly generalization of " laser = acceleration". Not specifically referring to highest possible tracking speed.

Modern releases/revisions all do fairly well in regards.
Edited by Skylit - 12/11/13 at 11:28am
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my friend bought me a hard plastic mouspad and my deathadder 3.5g did not track at all on it. I was also flown to a studio once and the LED mouse i brought did not work on their hard plastic mouspads. So at least for me, i've had pretty bad luck with hard pads and LED mice.
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Originally Posted by Atavax View Post

my friend bought me a hard plastic mouspad and my deathadder 3.5g did not track at all on it. I was also flown to a studio once and the LED mouse i brought did not work on their hard plastic mouspads. So at least for me, i've had pretty bad luck with hard pads and LED mice.

What kind of surface was it? Any of the grainy textured surfaces should perform well enough with that specific mouse.

4HD/9HD
Destructor 1/2 (D2 shows some speed loss vs others, precision is good.)
MM400
G440
Swift

etc..
Edited by Skylit - 12/11/13 at 11:39am
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http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww128/RoddimusPrime/OCN%20Sale/DSC04079.jpg on either side, didn't track at all
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