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post #1651 of 6214
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Originally Posted by Menthalion View Post

The build quality on the Roccat Kone Pure Optical I had was top notch, way above Steelseries. Sensor wise it's also at the top. Razer mice are as flimsy as you can get.

CM Storm Recon is slightly under the Roccat, a bit on the heavy side but pretty good for a palm mouse. You almost can't but palm it due to the pronounced hump at the back. Some people have problems with reaching the front thumb button but I had no problems there, but I have pretty big hands. Sensor wise it has very big steps, 800 1600 3200 and 4000.

Mionix Naos 7000 on paper has great specs, and the new 3310 is a great sensor. I have no personal experience with the mouse itself though, since it's been out for a week or two. The shape of all Naoses are very similar, so for ergonomics and build quality read up on their older version.

As for hand size, I looked it up, and 17 cm seems to be the average female hand size. A friend of mine I gave the Roccat to has about the same size hand, and loves it as palm mouse. Be aware that it doesn't track that well on a basic white desktop, but mice like that really deserve a good mousepad.

As for the Logitech, the G400s is a sturdy and good palm mouse but not really for small hands. G100s is a decent mouse for the low price, and sizewise it would fit pretty well, but tech spec wise you can get better.

So now I've seen that the Roccat Kone Pure Optical is a great mouse, but also pretty expensive, but you think that it´s totally worth the money?

Ok and last, are there great difference Bettween the Pure Optical, the Pure and the Pure XTD?

Many thanks
post #1652 of 6214
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Originally Posted by ADHDadditiv View Post

G700s battery life is abysmal, lasts about 8-9 hours of gaming and its dead, gotta plug it in. Although you do ahve the option of gaming plugged in, its annoying to say the least.
If you wanna go wireless, the only real option is the Logitech G602. Good amount of buttons, great sensor and massive battery life. I've been gaming with mine for nearly 2 months, havent dropped below 85% yet. thumb.gif

I have to second this person's experiences with the G700s. I just had to give up using it because I was plugging it in every other day. It just made the wireless feature pointless.

You could say, if I plug it in, it's just like any other wired mouse, but the USB plug that goes into the mouse is really thick, and actually hinders the movement of the mouse. I could remove the battery, while the USB cable is plugged in, to make it lighter, but then the balance of the mouse just all goes to hell.

So that, plus just having to worry about charging it every other day, I eventually figured getting a dedicated wired mouse would make things a whole lot easier.

Sorry for the mini-rant. I just wish Logitech would stop underfeaturing (like the G100s), or overfeaturing (like the G700s) their mice, and just make a decent mouse. The G400s is perfect feature-wise, but I'm just not a big fan of its shape.
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I have to second this person's experiences with the G700s. I just had to give up using it because I was plugging it in every other day. It just made the wireless feature pointless.

You could say, if I plug it in, it's just like any other wired mouse, but the USB plug that goes into the mouse is really thick, and actually hinders the movement of the mouse. I could remove the battery, while the USB cable is plugged in, to make it lighter, but then the balance of the mouse just all goes to hell.

So that, plus just having to worry about charging it every other day, I eventually figured getting a dedicated wired mouse would make things a whole lot easier.

Sorry for the mini-rant. I just wish Logitech would stop underfeaturing (like the G100s), or overfeaturing (like the G700s) their mice, and just make a decent mouse. The G400s is perfect feature-wise, but I'm just not a big fan of its shape.
Try the G602, takes what the G700 was trying to do and makes it alot better. Never worry about battery life again haha thumb.gif
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Actually... now that you mention it, I might consider the G602. Thanks for letting me know. thumb.gif
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1. What's your grip style?
I'm adaptable

2. What's your sensitivity?
Whatever it needs to be

3. What's your maximum budget?
(See 7)

4. Do you want additional buttons?
I don't need them

5. What games do you play?
CS:GO, BF4

6. Do you mind about prediction?
Yes

7. Other relevant information:
- I'm in a position where I can claim one of the follow mice for free: Zowie FK, Steelseries Rival, Razer DA 2013, Roccat Kova+. I have no brand loyalty or preference for aesthetics, I simply want the most accurate mouse I can get for FPS gaming. Choosing the Zowie FK would incur a 1 month waiting period. The Rival, DA and Kova+ are all in stock atm.
- I'll probably be using this mouse on a Artisan Hayate (but I'm open to suggestions)
- I have quite large hands. I've added a (crappy) photo for reference next to my Steelseries Wow Cata mouse and a ruler.
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Thanks guys and girls
post #1656 of 6214
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Originally Posted by ADHDadditiv View Post

Take a look at the Corsair M95, seems right up your alley. Also the Logitech G600 and the old G5 would work too. Look at mice in that shape and you should be fine.

From my "testing" experience so far I wouldn't recommend the Corsair M90/95. I`ve only tested the M90, but AFAIK the M95 only differs in another sensor.
For most concerns the M90/95 is a mouse of great design.
- thumb buttons -for my taste- perfectly placed, easy and comfortable (due to up-down movement of the thumb) to reach, no accidental hitting of the wrong button
- very comfortable form in terms of width-height-lengh relation, even if a wee bit too short for me, but I am mostly a palm-gripper, would be perfect if I could adapt to claw-grip
- perfectly adjusted left-/right-mouse buttons, easy enough to be comfortably clicked but even in the middle of a fight no unwanted clicking

BUT

clicking the thumb buttons is terrible, almost no response, a lot of force needed, feels like pressing a hard rubber ball
(that's the M90, if anybody knows this was also changed on the M95 due to experience with both of them ......)


@ADHDadditiv
as far as I've read you seem to be really fond of the G602.
may I ask you how big YOUR hands are in terms of lenght and width?
(you might have a look on my post #1562 in this thread)
Edited by NucNuc - 12/17/13 at 10:42pm
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@ADHDadditiv
as far as I've read you seem to be really fond of the G602.
may I ask you how big YOUR hands are in terms of lenght and width?
(you might have a look on my post #1562 in this thread)
I have fairly large hands, I think they are over 7" in length. Very comfortable.
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Originally Posted by fleetfeather View Post

1. What's your grip style?
I'm adaptable

2. What's your sensitivity?
Whatever it needs to be

3. What's your maximum budget?
(See 7)

4. Do you want additional buttons?
I don't need them

5. What games do you play?
CS:GO, BF4

6. Do you mind about prediction?
Yes

7. Other relevant information:
- I'm in a position where I can claim one of the follow mice for free: Zowie FK, Steelseries Rival, Razer DA 2013, Roccat Kova+. I have no brand loyalty or preference for aesthetics, I simply want the most accurate mouse I can get for FPS gaming. Choosing the Zowie FK would incur a 1 month waiting period. The Rival, DA and Kova+ are all in stock atm.
- I'll probably be using this mouse on a Artisan Hayate (but I'm open to suggestions)
- I have quite large hands. I've added a (crappy) photo for reference next to my Steelseries Wow Cata mouse and a ruler.
pic (Click to show)


Thanks guys and girls

FK is very narrow, Kova+ doesn't look very comfortable imo. Between Deathadder and Rival I would go for Deathadder. The build quality of the 2013 feels very good and I would say it's more flexible in terms of grip style. Rival forces you to palm it very far back and if you hold it more to the front like me it feels unbalanced due to it's slim front and wide rear. People with big hands should be able to use Deathadder with palm, claw or even fingertip grip, but I don't see Rivals shape fit for that. Better weight balance in Deathadder, Rival feels heavier at the rear and heavier than the Deathadder overall imo. I prefer the lighter switches in Deathadder as well, Rivals are pretty hard and not as crisp. I don't know any mouse with better side buttons than Deathadder, perfect placed and good size, Rivals side buttons are too far back and too high placed. The first thing I like more about the Rival is the mouse feet, good size and glides well. Deathadders feet are thin and small. The other thing is how it looks... but I don't choose a mouse just cause it looks good.

I probably sound like a Deathadder fanboy after this text but I don't use Deathadder or Rival. I own both but both are to heavy for my taste, just point out what I would prefer. I use Sensei RAW atm, for the moment I can't find a better mouse for me even due to the acceleration issues. The shape and weight are just really good.
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Originally Posted by daav1d View Post

FK is very narrow, Kova+ doesn't look very comfortable imo. Between Deathadder and Rival I would go for Deathadder. The build quality of the 2013 feels very good and I would say it's more flexible in terms of grip style. Rival forces you to palm it very far back and if you hold it more to the front like me it feels unbalanced due to it's slim front and wide rear. People with big hands should be able to use Deathadder with palm, claw or even fingertip grip, but I don't see Rivals shape fit for that. Better weight balance in Deathadder, Rival feels heavier at the rear and heavier than the Deathadder overall imo. I prefer the lighter switches in Deathadder as well, Rivals are pretty hard and not as crisp. I don't know any mouse with better side buttons than Deathadder, perfect placed and good size, Rivals side buttons are too far back and too high placed. The first thing I like more about the Rival is the mouse feet, good size and glides well. Deathadders feet are thin and small. The other thing is how it looks... but I don't choose a mouse just cause it looks good.

I probably sound like a Deathadder fanboy after this text but I don't use Deathadder or Rival. I own both but both are to heavy for my taste, just point out what I would prefer. I use Sensei RAW atm, for the moment I can't find a better mouse for me even due to the acceleration issues. The shape and weight are just really good.

Cheers for the insight, repped. smile.gif

Still looking for additional input from the rest of the community too.
post #1660 of 6214
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Originally Posted by ssss69 View Post

So now I've seen that the Roccat Kone Pure Optical is a great mouse, but also pretty expensive, but you think that it´s totally worth the money?

Ok and last, are there great difference Bettween the Pure Optical, the Pure and the Pure XTD?

Many thanks

There's pretty big differences between the Pure Optical and the
  • Pure - Worse (laser) sensor
  • Pure XTD - Bigger, worse (laser) sensor
So you really want the Pure Optical.

Build quality I think it's the best mouse I've ever owned. Sensor wise it's among the best. I really wanted to like the mouse but the ergonomics just weren't for my hands / grip.
I really value build quality after I had to bin two SteelSeries in a row within a year (braided cord failure). I got suckered into buying the Rival because it has a non-braided cord, which I optimistically hope won't break down so soon, and because on all other fronts (sensor/shape) it seemed a good mouse for me.
Still think it's a flimsy mouse though. Razer's even worse, stopped buying them long ago.

I don't think you'll have problems like that with the Pure Optical. 20 euro more is a lot less than having to buy two mice in a year. The biggest gamble you take on buying mice is how they feel, because there's no quality metrics / reviews that will make you know that.
Edited by Menthalion - 12/18/13 at 3:35am
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