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post #582 of 6207
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Originally Posted by Art Vanelay View Post


Savu (I've heard it's uncomfortable to claw grip)

Claw is a viable grip for Savu thumb.gif no discomfort so far clawing and pawing it
post #583 of 6207
Not a gamer, but perhaps this mouse, if the small amount of prediction has been removed with the firmware upgrade:

http://www.ttesports.com/products/product.aspx?p=25&g=ftr

The size is incorrectly listed... It's almost 124 mm long.
Edited by therecorder - 10/22/12 at 2:37am
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1. What's your grip style?
85% finger
15% claw

2. What's your sensitivity?
I like 3inches/360 or something like that. I'm nuts. I play with 1800dpi, valve games console --> sensitivity 3 tongue.gif
Main reason I don't use Salmosa is I'd like a mouse that
  1. Doesn't squeak
  2. Has more than the 3 standard buttons (at least 4 buttons please!)
  3. Small hands (I'm asian)


3. What's your maximum budget?
$60?

4. Do you want additional buttons?
1 extra please. OR if it's a good mouse, 3 buttons is fine but it better compensate for lack of buttons with the rest of it being really worth it!

5. What games do you play?
TF2 (6s competitive, scout, scatter gun aiming important)
Dota 2

6. Do you mind about prediction?
Uh... Does the Tron and Salmosa have prediction? Been using both of them for ages.
What should I get, no prediction or prediction if I have been using it for the last 5 years?

7. Other relevant information:
Input anything else you want.
some examples: LOD, ambidextrous shape, weight, wireless, non-braided cord, glossy finish, button activation force, driverless, onboard memory, etc


  1. I have asian/small hands, so I believe [/I [not sure] this translates to a rather flat mouse. Anything more "round-y shaped", like a deathadder my hand just doesn't feel used to it. (probably since I've used salmosa & tron)

    I use fingertip grip and sometimes when I snipe I find myself flexing my thumb&pinky muscles together to squeeze the bottom of the mouse for more stability when twitch aiming (
    this is the reason why I state 15% of the time I use a claw grip)
  2. What should I look for in a mouse? Sensor? Tell me more about basics of sensors please smile.gif




Thanks a lot in advance!

P.S.
I do use a steelseries mouse pad which I can ditch...
Edited by FlashFir - 10/23/12 at 6:45pm
post #585 of 6207
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlashFir View Post

1. What's your grip style?
85% finger
15% claw
2. What's your sensitivity?
I like 3inches/360 or something like that. I'm nuts. I play with 1800dpi, valve games console --> sensitivity 3 tongue.gif
Main reason I don't use Salmosa is I'd like a mouse that
  1. Doesn't squeak
  2. Has more than the 3 standard buttons (at least 4 buttons please!)
  3. Small hands (I'm asian)
3. What's your maximum budget?
$60?
4. Do you want additional buttons?
1 extra please. OR if it's a good mouse, 3 buttons is fine but it better compensate for lack of buttons with the rest of it being really worth it!
5. What games do you play?
TF2 (6s competitive, scout, scatter gun aiming important)
Dota 2
6. Do you mind about prediction?
Uh... Does the Tron and Salmosa have prediction? Been using both of them for ages.
What should I get, no prediction or prediction if I have been using it for the last 5 years?
7. Other relevant information:
Input anything else you want.
some examples: LOD, ambidextrous shape, weight, wireless, non-braided cord, glossy finish, button activation force, driverless, onboard memory, etc
  1. I have asian/small hands, so I believe [/I [not sure] this translates to a rather flat mouse. Anything more "round-y shaped", like a deathadder my hand just doesn't feel used to it. (probably since I've used salmosa & tron)
    I use fingertip grip and sometimes when I snipe I find myself flexing my thumb&pinky muscles together to squeeze the bottom of the mouse for more stability when twitch aiming (
    this is the reason why I state 15% of the time I use a claw grip)
  2. What should I look for in a mouse? Sensor? Tell me more about basics of sensors please smile.gif
Thanks a lot in advance!

For mouse sensors:
http://www.overclock.net/t/854100/mouse-sensor-technology-guide-v2-0

I personally prefer the DIP-20 optical sensor, as it has very good tracking on cloth surfaces and no acceleration. It has prediction on many mice.
If you don't mind acceleration or like high sensitivities, the DIP-16 sensor would work, as well.
The Phillips twin eye sensor is very good if you use hard surfaces; it has problems on some cloth mouse pads.

The Zowie AM sounds good for smaller hands.
post #586 of 6207
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Originally Posted by Art Vanelay View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlashFir View Post

1. What's your grip style?
85% finger
15% claw
2. What's your sensitivity?
I like 3inches/360 or something like that. I'm nuts. I play with 1800dpi, valve games console --> sensitivity 3 tongue.gif
Main reason I don't use Salmosa is I'd like a mouse that
  1. Doesn't squeak...

For mouse sensors:
http://www.overclock.net/t/854100/mouse-sensor-technology-guide-v2-0

I personally prefer the DIP-20 optical sensor, as it has very good tracking on cloth surfaces and no acceleration. It has prediction on many mice.
If you don't mind acceleration or like high sensitivities, the DIP-16 sensor would work, as well.
The Phillips twin eye sensor is very good if you use hard surfaces; it has problems on some cloth mouse pads.

The Zowie AM sounds good for smaller hands.

I use a steelseries mousepad... and there's always nasty black gunk before I used it... so I'd prefer hard surfaces. BUT if the mouse is a fit, I take it!
"it has prediction on many mice" that doesn't make sense with your prior sentence saying... wait. what's prediction vs acceleration? i am evidently not knowledgeable.

I DO mind acceleration because Point A to Point B consistency is insanely important for FPS games. So I'll look into the DIP-20, after I find out what prediction (thought it was acceleration)


Although you recommended the Zowie, this review makes me think otherwise: (amazon review)
Quote:
If you don't move your mouse very fast, lift it up very often, or use lowish cpi settings, this is not the mouse for you. There are better mice for you, many at lower prices.
This mouse is for those who physically move their mouse far and fast, the people who make good use of really large mouse pads.

G400?
This guy is like me and he liked it
http://www.overclock.net/t/1287249/g400-ok-for-fingertip-grip/0_100#post_17904380
Edited by FlashFir - 10/23/12 at 7:43pm
post #587 of 6207
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Originally Posted by FlashFir View Post

I use a steelseries mousepad... and there's always nasty black gunk before I used it... so I'd prefer hard surfaces. BUT if the mouse is a fit, I take it!
"it has prediction on many mice" that doesn't make sense with your prior sentence saying... wait. what's prediction vs acceleration? i am evidently not knowledgeable.
I DO mind acceleration because Point A to Point B consistency is insanely important for FPS games. So I'll look into the DIP-20, after I find out what prediction (thought it was acceleration)
Although you recommended the Zowie, this review makes me think otherwise: (amazon review)
G400?
This guy is like me and he liked it
http://www.overclock.net/t/1287249/g400-ok-for-fingertip-grip/0_100#post_17904380
The G400 is my favourite mouse, but it is pretty curvy; if you want a flat mouse, it's probably not the best.

I meant to finish that sentence about prediction, but I got interrupted. I meant to say that it has prediction on many mice, so check the mouse sensor guide to make sure that it has been disabled.

Prediction predicts your mouse movement, so that you can draw lines better and stuff.
Acceleration modifies the speed at which your cursor moves relative to the speed at which your mouse is moving, so when you move your mouse fast with positive acceleration, your cursor will move faster than it would without acceleration.
post #588 of 6207
Quote:
Originally Posted by Art Vanelay View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlashFir View Post

I use a steelseries mousepad... and there's always nasty black gunk before I used it... so I'd prefer hard surfaces. BUT if the mouse is a fit, I take it!
"it has prediction on many mice" that doesn't make sense with your prior sentence saying... wait. what's prediction vs acceleration? i am evidently not knowledgeable.
I DO mind acceleration because Point A to Point B consistency is insanely important for FPS games. So I'll look into the DIP-20, after I find out what prediction (thought it was acceleration)
Although you recommended the Zowie, this review makes me think otherwise: (amazon review)
G400?
This guy is like me and he liked it
http://www.overclock.net/t/1287249/g400-ok-for-fingertip-grip/0_100#post_17904380
The G400 is my favourite mouse, but it is pretty curvy; if you want a flat mouse, it's probably not the best.

I meant to finish that sentence about prediction, but I got interrupted. I meant to say that it has prediction on many mice, so check the mouse sensor guide to make sure that it has been disabled.

Prediction predicts your mouse movement, so that you can draw lines better and stuff.
Acceleration modifies the speed at which your cursor moves relative to the speed at which your mouse is moving, so when you move your mouse fast with positive acceleration, your cursor will move faster than it would without acceleration.

Would you consider the Salmosa flat? I just want something that's curvy BECAUSE its trying to be ergonomic because... frankly I put my hand on a deathadder and I just said no.
post #589 of 6207
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Originally Posted by FlashFir View Post

Would you consider the Salmosa flat? I just want something that's curvy BECAUSE its trying to be ergonomic because... frankly I put my hand on a deathadder and I just said no.
Then get a G400.
post #590 of 6207
The salamosa actually does have angle snapping (commonly referred to as prediction for some reason), Most mice i've used that have had it it's been barely noticeable on.
    
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