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I ordered a Rat7 earlier this month and I have a very love/hate relationship with it and am trying to decide whether or not to RMA it, I have two other mice in mind.
While it tracks okay it's very sensitive to dust and stuff in the optics, and sometimes I don't even know if it's anything in there, it just spazzes. I can't really put a frequency on it though, sometimes it happens often, and other times rarely.
Ergonomically it's great but the thumb rest is supposed to be adjustable, like on a hinge it swings in/out, but it doesn't lock into position well, in the fully out position, slight pressure will cause it to pop back to a sort of half-way position. The palm rest only seems to be usable in 3 of the 4 positions it has, in the 4th it always pops foreward ino the 3rd position some time during play.
It also has the issue with that slight twitch on pickup, but that's not a huge issue for me, just a minor annoyance to see.
Now given that it's $75 I feel that these little things just... well they shouldn't exist.
I know the G9x has great reviews, the big issue seems to be the mouse wheel pressure, but I rarely use mwheel click. How are the ergonomics? I don't have much of a grip preference, I can use palm, fingertip, and to some extent claw, as long as the mouse is comfortable in that position. My hands are medium (by Razer's standards they are exactly average measurements in all dimensions). How is the lift off distance? Is it significantly less susceptible to dust-in-lens syndrome, or is this something I can expect from most high-DPI modern mice?
The other one was the CM Storm Sentinel, anyone have any experience with this?
Is it like where you are moving it and it suddenly stops tracking for a second? That's what mine did before I returned it.
post #682 of 6288
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Originally Posted by stevman17 View Post

I have experience with the Storm Sentinel II Advanced:
While the mouse works well, I couldn't get a comfortable grip. It felt too narrow. Also, the fit and finish of the mouse is kind of cheap and plastic.
Ah, yeah I heard the finish wears off, but it got a good review from a standard big name reviewer, but they tend to be brown nosers.
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Originally Posted by Art Vanelay View Post

Is it like where you are moving it and it suddenly stops tracking for a second? That's what mine did before I returned it.
Sometimes it stops, sometimes it stops on one axis, and sometimes it jumps around. I know they say this is a dust issue, but for one, why is it such a bad issue with this mouse and not others? For another their optics well is has a running lip on one edge so you can't even get inside to clean it properly.

One final question, does anyone know if there's any difference between the G9x and the MW3 edition other than price? I would gladly accept the label of a game I don't play to get it cheaper.
Edited by zhook - 11/17/12 at 12:11pm
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It's more of a problem for the RAT because it uses the now kind of uncommon Phillips twin eye sensor which is very sensitive to dust. Phillips probably shouldn't have told mouse manufacturers to put that lip there. I guess it's to protect the sensor, but it's not like that was an issue and it just makes it pick up dust more readily.
    
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Yeah idk I used a TT Esports Black that had a PTE sensor and it wasn't as bad as the one in the RAT, it was an older model. It would, on occasion, spaz, but rarely, less violently, and the sensor well was nice and open so you could clean it easily, which you pretty much never had to because it was almost always a hair under the mouse, not something actually stuck in the optics area.

I'm going to order the G9x, I'll try both side by side and send back the loser.
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Ah, yeah I heard the finish wears off, but it got a good review from a standard big name reviewer, but they tend to be brown nosers.
Sometimes it stops, sometimes it stops on one axis, and sometimes it jumps around. I know they say this is a dust issue, but for one, why is it such a bad issue with this mouse and not others? For another their optics well is has a running lip on one edge so you can't even get inside to clean it properly.
One final question, does anyone know if there's any difference between the G9x and the MW3 edition other than price? I would gladly accept the label of a game I don't play to get it cheaper.
Can you see any dust caught in the sensor cavity? Mine looked completely clean, yet it would often have this issue.
What sensitivity do you play on? A mouse with an ADSN 3090 sensor might be just as well suited for you, and much cheaper.

The G9x MW3 edition should be exactly the same as the regular one.

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It's more of a problem for the RAT because it uses the now kind of uncommon Phillips twin eye sensor which is very sensitive to dust. Phillips probably shouldn't have told mouse manufacturers to put that lip there. I guess it's to protect the sensor, but it's not like that was an issue and it just makes it pick up dust more readily.
You can clean the lip fairly easily, and I never had any problem with dust accumulating in it; though, that's probably because I returned it within a week of buying it.
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It doesn't seem to take a visibly large amount to cause it.

Another issue I'm finding is with very precise, small movements the mouse fails me. I have my old Deathadder here and it's very evident when making small circles with the mouse, the Deathadder makes them smoother and better while something with the RAT7 just seems off.

This is crucial in things like sniper duals
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It doesn't seem to take a visibly large amount to cause it.
Another issue I'm finding is with very precise, small movements the mouse fails me. I have my old Deathadder here and it's very evident when making small circles with the mouse, the Deathadder makes them smoother and better while something with the RAT7 just seems off.
This is crucial in things like sniper duals
Really? I felt that the RAT was more precise than the deathadder, especially at high DPI settings.
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Idk maybe it's just the significant weight difference causing the RAT to stick to the pad more requiring slightly more forceful nudges. Weightless rat is almost 2x DE
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1. What's your grip style?

I switch between 2: fingertip and fingertip but with my lower palm touching the back of the mouse (I guess you could call it clawpaw)

2. What's your sensitivity?

No idea. First "proper" mouse.

3. What's your maximum budget?

None as of now.

4. Do you want additional buttons?

Not necessarily. Would be nice.

5. What games do you play?

Twin stick shooters.

6. Do you mind about prediction?

No but I'd prefer not to have it.

7. Other relevant information:

Using a Logitech Click! Optical mouse. Windows won't show DPI (I have to use the slider in the control panel). Forgive me if there's some way to find out but I just don't know how. I would prefer optical (any acceleration I'm rather against right now because it can usually start distracting me while I play twin-stick shooters as I don't own a gamepad).
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1. What's your grip style?
I switch between 2: fingertip and fingertip but with my lower palm touching the back of the mouse (I guess you could call it clawpaw)
2. What's your sensitivity?
No idea. First "proper" mouse.
3. What's your maximum budget?
None as of now.
4. Do you want additional buttons?
Not necessarily. Would be nice.
5. What games do you play?
Twin stick shooters.
6. Do you mind about prediction?
No but I'd prefer not to have it.
7. Other relevant information:
Using a Logitech Click! Optical mouse. Windows won't show DPI (I have to use the slider in the control panel). Forgive me if there's some way to find out but I just don't know how. I would prefer optical (any acceleration I'm rather against right now because it can usually start distracting me while I play twin-stick shooters as I don't own a gamepad).
I'm not exactly sure of the difference between claw and clawpaw grip, but the Logitech G400 works for whichever of them I do.
The Roccat Savu and Zowie AM are good for fingertip grip.
None of those have acceleration or prediction.
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