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12/2/12 at 5:12pm
You are correct Art. Looks like it is time to get out the metric rule and kitchen scale and do some weights and measures!
The Salmosa is a real light weight. Without cord I weigh it in at 72g. I wonder if the 104g on Razers site includes the cord?
Also their measurements are off. The Diamondback lists as 129mm long and I measure it at 125mm. The Solmosa lists 116mm long and measures 111mm.
Just for the heck of it I pulled out the old G3 and it measures 115mm.
I now have 3 mice on my short list. Razer DA BE, Cooler Master Recon (thanks to Glenn's side by side with the G3) the to be released Ninox Aurora and will still consider the Zowie as an outside choice.
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12/2/12 at 5:33pm
1. What's your grip style?
Palm
2. What's your sensitivity?
Medium
3. What's your maximum budget?
$100
4. Do you want additional buttons?
Two is fine, more are welcome but not required
5. What games do you play?
Mostly FPS but anything really
6. Do you mind about prediction?
Yes, would like no prediction
7. Other relevant information:
I would prefer a large mouse for my hands, also without any acceleration at all - or +

Was looking at the Sensei RAW and Deathadder before I heard the many complaints of durability from the Deathadder and Razer in general. Was thinking of a G500 but it has positive acceleration and the G9x is too small form my hands. Thanks for any help/suggestions.
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12/2/12 at 5:45pm
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You are correct Art. Looks like it is time to get out the metric rule and kitchen scale and do some weights and measures!
The Salmosa is a real light weight. Without cord I weigh it in at 72g. I wonder if the 104g on Razers site includes the cord?
Also their measurements are off. The Diamondback lists as 129mm long and I measure it at 125mm. The Solmosa lists 116mm long and measures 111mm.
Just for the heck of it I pulled out the old G3 and it measures 115mm.
I now have 3 mice on my short list. Razer DA BE, Cooler Master Recon (thanks to Glenn's side by side with the G3) the to be released Ninox Aurora and will still consider the Zowie as an outside choice.
I thought the salmosa was somewhere around 60g; I was a bit off.
I have never heard of the nixox aurora. What sensor does it have?

using this calculatior, I found, at 5760x1080 with a 150 degrees FOV, with 1800 DPI, you have a minimum sensitivity of 20 cm/360, and at 2300 DPI, you have a minumum of 16 cm/360.

http://www.mikofoto.net/ae/calculator2.php

You could probably be able to use a 2300 DPI mouse fine, unless you use a very high sensitivity.
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1. What's your grip style?
Palm
2. What's your sensitivity?
Medium
3. What's your maximum budget?
$100
4. Do you want additional buttons?
Two is fine, more are welcome but not required
5. What games do you play?
Mostly FPS but anything really
6. Do you mind about prediction?
Yes, would like no prediction
7. Other relevant information:
I would prefer a large mouse for my hands, also without any acceleration at all - or +

Was looking at the Sensei RAW and Deathadder before I heard the many complaints of durability from the Deathadder and Razer in general. Was thinking of a G500 but it has positive acceleration and the G9x is too small form my hands. Thanks for any help/suggestions.
I would not recommend a LASER mouse, as most of them use the ADSN 9500/9800 sensor, which has acceleration. The Logitech G400 is a very good choice if you are palm gripping it; it has no acceleration or predictions, and very precise tracking up to 1800 DPI.
Edited by Art Vanelay - 12/2/12 at 5:47pm
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12/2/12 at 5:50pm
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2. What's your sensitivity?
1800dpi currently. I now have an Eyefinity setup and think something in the 3200-3600 range is in order. Optical only.

Most optical mice jitters a lot when they go past 3000DPI, so maybe it's not a good idea to get an optical mouse for high DPI usage, except maybe DeathAdder 2013 as I've read report saying that it does well even at higher DPIs.
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12/2/12 at 6:47pm
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Most optical mice jitters a lot when they go past 3000DPI, so maybe it's not a good idea to get an optical mouse for high DPI usage, except maybe DeathAdder 2013 as I've read report saying that it does well even at higher DPIs.
I'd wait a while before getting a mouse like that. Usually it takes them a while to work out all of the bugs.
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12/2/12 at 7:01pm
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I thought the salmosa was somewhere around 60g; I was a bit off.
I have never heard of the nixox aurora. What sensor does it have?
using this calculatior, I found, at 5760x1080 with a 150 degrees FOV, with 1800 DPI, you have a minimum sensitivity of 20 cm/360, and at 2300 DPI, you have a minumum of 16 cm/360.
http://www.mikofoto.net/ae/calculator2.php
You could probably be able to use a 2300 DPI mouse fine, unless you use a very high sensitivity.
I would not recommend a LASER mouse, as most of them use the ADSN 9500/9800 sensor, which has acceleration. The Logitech G400 is a very good choice if you are palm gripping it; it has no acceleration or predictions, and very precise tracking up to 1800 DPI.

Art, I got 72g converting it from 2.5 ounces on a cheap postal scale so I am sure it is not 100% either.

Nixox Aurora aka BST's Gaming Mouse.

I do not know where to get the xcm/360 sensitivity for that calculator but my screen resolution is 5040 x 1050 (3, 20 inch monitors at 1680x1050 each) I know I can go out and grab a DA tomorrow locally so that will give me something to start with before I start ordering mice from Amazon/Newegg. I also have a bunch of reading to do so I can figure out more on sensors and sensitivity.

Thanks for the help.
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post #787 of 1077
12/2/12 at 7:19pm
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Art, I got 72g converting it from 2.5 ounces on a cheap postal scale so I am sure it is not 100% either.
Nixox Aurora aka BST's Gaming Mouse.
I do not know where to get the xcm/360 sensitivity for that calculator but my screen resolution is 5040 x 1050 (3, 20 inch monitors at 1680x1050 each) I know I can go out and grab a DA tomorrow locally so that will give me something to start with before I start ordering mice from Amazon/Newegg. I also have a bunch of reading to do so I can figure out more on sensors and sensitivity.
Thanks for the help.
Here's how you get distance for a 360.
Get a ruler
Go into a game
Measure how far it took to do a 360

I prefer somewhere around 13 inches per 360, personally.

IF you need to read about sensors, I would have recommended Skylit's guide, but that was being edited last I checked.
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12/5/12 at 5:23pm
Thanks for the tip Art.
Well, I got 2 new mice in the house. I picked up a DA Black edition for $44 and a Abyssus for $30. The DA feels great in my hand. The Abyssus feels good too. Kind of strange since the Salmosa doesnt feel as good but is the same size and almost same body. Either way they both are as slippery as snail snot. I think I remember this about my Diamond back too. A little sweat and they should be as tacky.
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12/6/12 at 5:50am
Finally found a mouse that has a proper sensor (CM Storm spawn) to replace my old diamondback. Ugh! Finally! Years of searching and finally!
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12/6/12 at 1:12pm
1. What's your grip style?
Claw (i think), may be slightly fingertip but idk. I can provide a pic of how I hold my mouse if needed, just let me know
Here is the mouse im using....
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/23-126-069-06.jpg

2. What's your sensitivity?
Right now I am using a crappy MK300 mouse (2100 DPI IR optical). Not the least bit happy with it but it was something I had before I bought my rig. Therefore, I dont really know what would be best suited for me...

3. What's your maximum budget?
$150ish (xmas gift)

4. Do you want additional buttons?
'sniper' button would be a plus. Don't really think I would really utilize macros, though, but it wont bother me if they are there.

5. What games do you play?
FPS, RPGs. (GTA, COD series, anything Bethesda, L4D, and some casual TF2 now and then)

6. Do you mind about prediction?
If i knew what that was I could tell you .-.

7. Other relevant information:
****MATTE FINISH (my hands sweat and stick to a glossy surface)****
Red LED lighting/customizable backlight, or none at all (no green/blue) May reconsider if someone shows me something I really like
If wired, braided cable


Two mice I kinda like are the R.A.T. 9 and the Naga Molten, but like I said, I haven't a clue what I should really get...

I can deal with a somewhat heavy mouse because I still use a Logitech Cordless Click! (released in 2003) on my second rig
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Edited by raidmaxGuy - 12/6/12 at 1:18pm
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