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post #1021 of 2308
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Originally Posted by JF-AMD
Q. I saw a benchmark on xyz website. Is that how bulldozer will perform?A. No. Nothing posted before launch will be representative of actual performance. To get actual performance, you need:

Final production silicon
Final processor microcode
Final system BIOS
Final OS optimizaitons
Final drivers
An app compiled with the latest flags
A person who understands the app and configures the test properly

Without these things (and there are probably more), you cannot get an accurate benchmark. Any extrapolation of a crappy benchmark gives you a crappy estimate of actual performance. Period.

Oh, and many of the benchmarks that you see were probably not run, those are just charts made in excel. It's really easy to make a chart in excel - what do you want, bulldozer faster by 3716%? Intel faster by 293%? Sure, I can do either one in 10 seconds.
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AMdont?

Ok, so im still learning a lot from reading everyone's posts throughout OCN, but i do have a question or two here re: BD. Someone earlier mentioned how the Overdrive software rocked for PIIs but not for BDs...perhaps because it was designed for the PIIs? Is it possible that AMD was looking to the long game, when multi-core software would be the norm, just implemented and released the BD too soon, as the s/w market hasnt caught up? Maybe they know something we dont? Just wondering.
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http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...onclusion.html (link is already in the op)

Are these guys retarded or did they do something no-one else did, The 8150FX actually looks worth it over a 2600k in these benches????

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There are two areas where the FX-8150 excells though, those are gaming and overclocking. In the former we saw the processor give us improved framerates over the Intel model. In the latter the ability to exceed 5GHz with ease offers additional value for money. In fact AMD have indicated that they expect most users to exceed 4.8GHz on air cooling.

Edited by pyra - 10/12/11 at 9:16am
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Are there any benchmarks showing off an NB overclock together with the CPU? Sites always seem to forget this part of overclocking on AMD systems.
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No doubt AMD is looking ahead to when MT tasks are more the norm. However, Intel is too far ahead even at most MT stuff with 4 cores that when they drop X79 and there are 6C/12T chips it won't even be funny the thrashing BD will take in MT. It's sad really.
    
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Wow... those power consumption numbers when over clocked are eye popping. LOL
Well...that is the one justafiable result. If you consider the four modules to be equal to eight physical cores it kind of makes sense that it uses double the power of a sandy bridge...and that is if you want to compare power ussage of BD and SB on equal footing when talking one core.

However, since resources are shared some in the modules I was expecting the power usage to be a decent amount lower. Still higher overall, but when eight threads are figured in I would think it would be realitively lower. The increase is still fairly linear though.

Imagine if nothing was shared...the power ussage would have been a little higher yet.

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Originally Posted by rubicsphere View Post
No doubt AMD is looking ahead to when MT tasks are more the norm. However, Intel is too far ahead even at most MT stuff with 4 cores that when they drop X79 and there are 6C/12T chips it won't even be funny the thrashing BD will take in MT. It's sad really.
Not to mention I can turn on HT and still compete in the multithreaded world as well...and not be too far behind with a "last gen" CPU that is a couple years old now
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 10/12/11 at 9:24am
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8150 isn't really a 8-core CPU, it was supposed to be a 4 core but to have something like Intel's hyper threading, just better. But studying computer science I can understand why is it hard to implement.
How do BD cores look in windows task manager?

Is it like this?
[module1] [module2] [module3] [module4]
[core0 core1] [core2 core3] [core4 core5] [core6 core7]

Or like this?
[core0 core2] [core4 core6] [core1 core3] [core5 core7]

Could help to have a bios/UEFI setting or windows setting which can change the core number in windows, so that windows will prefer to use one core from each module, before loading 2 cores in one module.

With my intel core i3, windows usually prefers to use real cores, before using hyperthreads.
Edited by Partol - 10/12/11 at 9:20am
     
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Are there any benchmarks showing off an NB overclock together with the CPU? Sites always seem to forget this part of overclocking on AMD systems.
A couple people have brought it up. I can't remember where it is in the thread now but one of the OCN'ers that has been playing with a 8150 for a while and tried OCing the NB to improve overall performance. He could only get it to 2700 or 2800 and it really didn't improve the chip all that much.
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http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...onclusion.html (link is already in the op)

Are these guys retarded or did they do something no-one else did, The 8150FX actually looks worth it over a 2600k in these benches????
Like I said earlier. Noticed they used an ASROCK 990FX board and NOT the Crosshair.
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i'm still hoping there will be some magical bios flash or updated microcode that will help these out.. it's an amd prescott so far
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