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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post
The sad part about this is if they had just added two more cores to Thuban it would have obliterated these BD results...
Quite possibly. I believe that BD is meant for the next generation of software that can fully utilize it. I'm hoping at least.
I'm going to see what happens with BD in the next few months and see what is fixed with it. And how OS's may be patched to fully utilize BD's architecture.
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Fermi? Haha... not hardly. Fermi was never a failure.
That's why ATi's prices went up 30% after its release right?
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Did you even check the HardOCP article you linked to? The Battlefield 3 performance is identical...

How is that more superior to Sandy Bridge?
Errr......what? Identical you say? Lets have a look shall we?



Ok so at stock speed,

MIN. difference: 6.7% better than 2600K; and 8.9% better than the 2500k.
MAX. difference: 6.1% better than 2600k; and 7.4% better than the 2500K.
AVG. difference: 3.8% worse than 2600K; and 1.4% better than the 2500K
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Now lets look at overclocked results:

Min: 17.4% better than the 2600K; 13.1% better than the 2500k.
MAX: 17.2% better than the 2600K; identical to the 2500K.
AVG: 5.2% better than the 2600K; 5.8% better than the 2600K.

It's interesting how the 2600k actually loses performance when overclocked.

Regardless, as you can clearly see, they're not identical performers.
Edited by BlackOmega - 10/12/11 at 9:26am
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i'm still hoping there will be some magical bios flash or updated microcode that will help these out.. it's an amd prescott so far
Maybe more optimization with programs and such, but processors don't improve in performance like video cards do when they get a bios/driver update.

I've lost all faith in amd. Can't say how happy I am that I went with sandy bridge all those months ago, even through the recall.
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Whoever dumb enough if the Bulldozer still haven't proven its power in several weeks or months and the costs remains high $250+ is ridiculous. I rather get Core i5 2nd @ $150 gives better performances.

This is lame.

Here comes the waiting game again... holding out.
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Were there any non-GPU limited high end dual card setup benchmarks?
    
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i'm still hoping there will be some magical bios flash or updated microcode that will help these out.. it's an amd prescott so far
Even if the fixes brought it up to within 5% of the 2500k it still won't really matter. The price/performance ratio is just not there like it was with other AMD lineups. I'll go with whatever chip is cheapest and will do what I need it to. You could really make an argument for going with a 965 over a i7-9xx for gaming because it was cheaper and did what you needed. The BD lineup now requires a pricing premium and offers sub-par performance for that premium.
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http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...onclusion.html (link is already in the op)

Are these guys retarded or did they do something no-one else did, The 8150FX actually looks worth it over a 2600k in these benches????
Interestingly that review does make Bulldozer's performance look a lot better...
 
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Can't say I am surprised, but still it comes as a huge disappointment. I really thought they would perform better than this. I just couldn't fathom them releasing a new CPU arch that performed worse in per core versus the PHII. I am still hopeful they can improve it by a good amount with a new revision though. Something seems off with the branch prediction or scheduler, these results are all over the place between different sites and tests. Some even get widely different results on the same test run back to back. Something is awry, just not sure what it is.

That said, AMD will probably still do just fine on sales. As said already, the average consumer knows very little in the way of IPC and per core performance or even power consumption. They will see 8 cores and buy if it is cheaper than the competitions "piddly 4 core" sitting next to it for a higher price. Our, the enthusiasts, market is very small and will have little impact on overall sales and profits. AMD will be around and thrive for a very long time to come.
Edited by Strat79 - 10/12/11 at 9:30am
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Interestingly that review does make Bulldozer's performance look a lot better...
It does, I wonder if there is something up with the Crosshair boards they sent out.
 
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http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...onclusion.html (link is already in the op)

Are these guys retarded or did they do something no-one else did, The 8150FX actually looks worth it over a 2600k in these benches????
might have been the L1 cache fix
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Even if the fixes brought it up to within 5% of the 2500k it still won't really matter. The price/performance ratio is just not there like it was with other AMD lineups. I'll go with whatever chip is cheapest and will do what I need it to. You could really make an argument for going with a 965 over a i7-9xx for gaming because it was cheaper and did what you needed. The BD lineup now requires a pricing premium and offers sub-par performance for that premium.
when i bought an 1100T it was around 240 bucks.. then it dropped within a few months..




most likely senerio for the fx procs


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Maybe more optimization with programs and such, but processors don't improve in performance like video cards do when they get a bios/driver update.

I've lost all faith in amd. Can't say how happy I am that I went with sandy bridge all those months ago, even through the recall.
i started out with amd then moved to intel.. i still have a soft spot for amd
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