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I assume you have a background in OS development that would qualify you to make such a comment. If so, let me know how easy it is to solve the aforementioned error. I'm waiting.
I didn't say it would be a simple fix. Still, AMD and MS are filled with smart people that should have been able to get this done by now.

Which leads me to believe that this hotfix or patch is not real.
    
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Why is this review:
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...roduction.html

Scoring so much better than the rest?

It's actually beating a 2600k in MANY tests in that review, and if not beating...matching. I'd definitely buy an 8150 if it can actually produce that level of performance....

edit: and the power usage isn't fermi like either =o
All I see is a different mobo
    
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Said it before and I'll say it again: Bulldozer = fail of epic proportions. Judging by the core for core performance, it feels like they duct-taped Pentium 4 cores together, and seeing it fail to previous gen X4 Phenom II CPU which had half the core count, was beyond a joke. This is a several thousand times bigger fail than their Phenom 1's ever were, and more worse than I thought it could ever be. After all those pholosophical theory posts by whom AMD fans consider "prophet" John (from whom we won't be seeing any more hype threads/posts I bet), we get an 8 core Pentium 4. Now where are all the quotes of people saying "BD will be the fastest CPU out" to make them eat those words, after the thousands of flameposts made here by most of them?

I kind of saw it coming anyways. FX name to signify core performance of 2003, biscuit tin packaging to signify the metaphor that it'll get eaten for breakfast performance-wise. If this is the best you can do AMD, after over half a decade of research & development, save yourselves the billions in cash and forget making/designing any more x86 CPUs (and spend it on developing/designing your GPUs).
How exactly does the 8150P "fail" against a Phenom II X4? You either didn't read the reviews properly, or you're another person who had ridiculous expectations.

I'm somewhat disappointed with Bulldozer (largely due to the absurd power consumption), but honestly, some of you guys need to quit throwing your toys out the pram.
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All I see is a different mobo
Has me wondering.... there has to be a reason it performed so much better for them =o.
 
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Maybe bulldozer wasn't meant to break the bridge but rather to be slow. Maybe Bulldozer was made slow like a Bulldozer but then a reform will come out and blow the bridge away? MAYBE ITS A MARKETING SCHEME!! LoLolOLASLKLSKALSKALKSLAKSLAKSLAKDLKLSADKSLDLSKDLL MAO TROLFLMF;DCNSPIRICYILOVEM
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Has me wondering.... there has to be a reason it performed so much better for them =o.
Maybe AsRock is the only one that can get the BIOS working properly?
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That's exactly what I've been thinking.

Why can't I use BF3? Because it's beta? Seriously? That's about the silliest thing I've ever heard. You're comparing performance of the same program. Regardless of whether or not it's beta. That argument is invalid and its beta status is irrelevant.

And while you may try to minimize it as "just a few FPS", when you look at it, in percents, there's a much larger margin. I surely can tolerate margin of error, however, they said that they ran each test three times.

As for my results, while sure they're not identical every time, all of my results have within 1% of each other. That's more about methodology and how the tests/BM's are run. It has to be consistent if you expect consistent results.



Exactly. The results are so mixed, they almost make no damn sense.
You can't go off percents...that is just sensationalizing the numbers. I absolutely dread it when news and marketing people do that. If you want to talk margin of error in percents you have to pretty much go off that +/- 7.5% is the margin of error when dealing in numbers this big. if the number were 10 and 15 there is a 50% increase!!!! woot! but once you have a significant base number like 100 and 105 then you are 5%. As the base number go up so does the margine of error.

Keep things mathmatical and not subjective. We are MEASURING performance so stick with actual measuremeants and leave the OMG percents alone. Same goes for those graphs that are showing SB like 70% better than BD in something. It is pointless percentages that do nothing but stir people up because 70% sounds much worse than 10 seconds slower.


Plus that overlocked 2600k must be unstable if the 2500k is beating it. they are the same CPU essentially once you OC. so you need to focus on the stock measurements if you are going to continue using that data. Though since it is a beta game it could get released and have drastically different results...I've seen it happen before.

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lol and notice they are still in stock. I remember trying to get a 5870 and they would be out of stock before you get it added to your cart.
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I must say I am dismayed that BD is so unimpressive compared to the 1100t in these reviews.

Never mind sandy bridge, they should have shrunk Thuban and added two cores and more clock speed. That would have crushed this BD disaster into dust.

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And for the sig watchers: I have two AMD and two sandy bridge systems. I prefer AMD but can't overlook the performance gap anymore.
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All I see is a different mobo
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