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Said it before and I'll say it again: Bulldozer = fail of epic proportions. Judging by the core for core performance, it feels like they duct-taped Pentium 4 cores together, and seeing it fail to previous gen X4 Phenom II CPU which had half the core count, was beyond a joke. This is a several thousand times bigger fail than their Phenom 1's ever were, and more worse than I thought it could ever be. After all those pholosophical theory posts by whom AMD fans consider "prophet" John (from whom we won't be seeing any more hype threads/posts I bet), we get an 8 core Pentium 4. Now where are all the quotes of people saying "BD will be the fastest CPU out" to make them eat those words, after the thousands of flameposts made here by most of them?

I kind of saw it coming anyways. FX name to signify core performance of 2003, biscuit tin packaging to signify the metaphor that it'll get eaten for breakfast performance-wise. If this is the best you can do AMD, after over half a decade of research & development, save yourselves the billions in cash and forget making/designing any more x86 CPUs (and spend it on developing/designing your GPUs).

i agree..the epic failness of this release is unprecedented..makes p4/phenom1
look like small fry..wait..it's 2011..and AMD comes up with..netburst architecture?..they need to take themselves off of their heads
 
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Ouch...2500k $219..vs 8150 $279..
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Thanks for the link to the review that compares the 6100 and 4100, here's a snippet:

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Originally Posted by black96ws6 View Post
Thanks for the link to the review that compares the 6100 and 4100, here's a snippet:

Your welcome
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1866RAM used. Just like in Guru3Ds the higher the RAM speed the better BD does it seems.
Sounds plausible...though that is a pretty hefty jump just for a higher speed ram lol. I'm thinking it may have more to do with the motherboard.
 
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A sad day for AMD. I understand that they were doing something of a forward looking redesign of their CPU architecture, but they should have put a stop to this before it launched. Surely they knew this was the performance they had.
    
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Well, this clears up quite a bit. Guess I'll buy a board for that 2500K I have sitting at home.
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Which leads me to believe that this hotfix or patch is not real.
Did someone claim there was going to be one? Because reviewing my posts I can see that I only eluded to a possiblity, but I have no first-, second- or tenth-hand knowlegde of anything of the sort. It would make sense that if it's a patchable issue something is already being worked on.

I want to be very clear about this, as some of you with blinders on may somehow mistake me for some "AMD fanboy" -- I have no self-fabricated allegiance to Intel/AMD/Nvidia/Via/whoever else. I buy what's good for my dollar, and that's the bottom line. I don't hope for one company to have more success than the other because it makes for a fragmented market with less choice and poorly leveraged pricing.

AMD's complete failure would have farther-reaching implications than many of you realize, although I guess it's easier to be ignorant.
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This is not an error. This is a bad design implementation on Bulldozer that AMD wants OS vendors to hack around.

Linus Torvalds commented "Argh. This is a small disaster, you know that, right?... I'd be really worried. Changing address space layout is not a small decision."

http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/p...204200361.html
thanks for the link..will try it after i get a chip
EDIT: nvm i think i see
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Has me wondering.... there has to be a reason it performed so much better for them =o.
Also; while most sites are impartial, several sites are clearly showing benchmarks favouring BD.

The review you posted earlier for example only uses game benchmarks that have been GPU limited (1080p, high detail, etc.) and posts ~1fps advantage for the BD to claim it is better, while in reality the 1% is practically the margin of error present in a test, and the test itself is clearly GPU bottlenecked. So in reality, the performance of the CPU is not seen.
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