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Wow the way things are going AMD will never BE intels Equal they should just drop out of manufacturing Processors seriously if this is what BUlldozer brings us then this is the biggest Dissapointment ever
10 years ago I wouldn't believe that Intel would ever beat out AMD. All the negativity in this thread is sad. When you compare flagship to flagship, AMD still has the price advantage. When you look at the average computer user, they all are more processor than the average Joe will use. I've built AMD and Intel machines for people, and even though you could consider me an AMD fan boy, I will tip my hat to the performance Intel gives!

People will find a use for BD, and the market will reflect it eventually. As far as AMD dropping out of the picture, that would be bad for the market. Competitive pricing is what keeps intel in check. As far as BD goes, yes I'm a little disappointed, but even if they came out and smashed Sandy Bridge, it would still be a year at best before I bought one.

Food for thought people... personally I could be happy if every thread wasn't a p***ing contest...
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I noticed that too. Initially I was like "cool!" but story wasnt being shared by other reviewers.
Yeah but i mean how can every other review on this planet say that Bulldozer isn't performing good and in their gaming benchmarks Bulldozer beats all....
    
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Do these work at all in the AM3 socket with bios update? This is probably been answered a long time ago...wasnt sure if you had to have the new socket or not.
   
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i can tell your upset,you know how?

that wasnt a question

i was telling you about some testing a guy did at XS's and that all.
sorry for laughing about it,i tickled me i guess
Yeah well I thought it was a question in there somewhere.

And don't worry for laughing I guess I'm getting over it and laughing too.

Oh I'm thinking of sticking a few grams of C4 on my GA-990FXA-UD3 and remote detonate it from safe distance.
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Yea, but, what if we disable 1 integer core per module, so that it doesn't share resources?
I think that's what he requested a few pages back. Would be interesting to see.
    
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Yea, but, what if we disable 1 integer core per module, so that it doesn't share resources? poke.gif

thats the point im saying,this guy tested it and disable one core in each module and ran it as a 2 modul/4 core chip and got better performance.and the only thing that would explain that is AMD's CMT doesnt work like they said it would,the sharing must be causing big problems with BD
    
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Why is Hardware Heaven the only review site that shows Bulldozer is performing good? Did they receive a different chip or something??
I'm not saying the following is true, but it's a possibility. Check out what a little birdie told him.
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When you compare flagship to flagship, AMD still has the price advantage.
What? I guess if you throw in Intel's 980x, but comparing SB flagship to BD flagship, they are both $280 in US.
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10 years ago I wouldn't believe that Intel would ever beat out AMD. All the negativity in this thread is sad. When you compare flagship to flagship, AMD still has the price advantage. When you look at the average computer user, they all are more processor than the average Joe will use. I've built AMD and Intel machines for people, and even though you could consider me an AMD fan boy, I will tip my hat to the performance Intel gives!

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Food for thought people... personally I could be happy if every thread wasn't a p***ing contest...
This is what we do as enthusiasts. We break it down and look at the performance of every aspect of it. You would not compare flagship to flagship when there is a $700 price difference. You would not compare Honda's flagship to Ferrari's flagship, just because both are their "flagship." They are in totally different territories. Someone that needs the power won't even think about the one that doesn't deliver it.

I do agree that these chips are much more than what the average consumer needs. But with the single thread performance being the way it is, I cannot see the point of anyone buying the quad core over a Phenom II quad core. The only advantage BD has is core count, and if you go into the lower segment that flies right out the window and you are left with only the disadvantages.

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Yeah but i mean how can every other review on this planet say that Bulldozer isn't performing good and in their gaming benchmarks Bulldozer beats all....
I posted this a few pages back, but with the speed of this thread posts get missed easily. Their testing was not thorough and their article is bad. They showed a GPU bottleneck and called it a CPU win. They did only a single test with each CPU in each game benchmark with very high graphics settings.
    
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I noticed that too. Initially I was like "cool!" but story wasnt being shared by other reviewers.
This is why we need a comprehensive database of the results with how hardware was used and what clock speeds. I never use Hardware Heaven's site, but I fully trust their results...as in they observed what they reported. However, there must be a reason why they have different results

I find it hard to believe the better results was do to an ASRock mother board (or have they gotten better? i am used to them being more of a budget board with a few good options, but then...I can't help but think that about Foxconn too and they've been making some decent boards.)

All to hell with it...I am going to call it a day early. heh...not getting any work done anyway thanks to Bulldozer.
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