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I'm sure AMD is quite aware that Bulldozer is not competitive performance-wise. They know they messed up.

But some of you guys needs to realize that AMD can't just admit BD is terrible and scrap it. They have no choice but to market it to sell to the uninformed. If they didn't, and consequently no one bought it, they would suffer enormous losses and any hope of AMD spending on R&D to bring out a competent architecture in the future would be crushed.

I'm not saying I support their deceptive marketing strategies, but there's really no easy way out of this right now. We, as consumers, can also not afford to have Bulldozer fail in the market. You all are aware of what would happen if AMD were to disappear from the desktop CPU market altogether.
How in the world do you see a processor that will play the latest games at the best settings for less than the competition as "terrible? In my world performing the same task for less is called a "bargain", not "deceptive marketing" and "terrible" as you have imagined. If you want to pay more to do the exact same thing as you could do for less you are welcome to do so, but it doesn't change anything about those that choose not to.
    
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False advertising, anyone?



It is efficient, 4 cores = 300 watts so 8 cores should = 600 watts... LOL
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another idea here is the fact that tiger direct could very well be sold out as well.



notice the "ships within" period

the retailers aren't planning on ordering 10,000 of these chips without intention of selling them. newegg had the 5970 on their site forever and kept dropping the price until they disappeared(not 1 review was uploaded for them), they aren't going to make that mistake again. looks like tiger direct is going to see how they sell before they even have them in stock, seems like they may already back ordered to me.
    
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How in the world do you see a processor that will play the latest games at the best settings for less than the competition as "terrible? In my world performing the same task for less is called a "bargain", not "deceptive marketing" and "terrible" as you have imagined. If you want to pay more to do the exact same thing as you could do for less you are welcome to do so, but it doesn't change anything about those that choose not to.
I feel like a lot of those tests were more GPU choked than CPU. That's the problem.

When they did run benchmarks that weren't GPU bottlenecked, the Bulldozer often did even worse than Phenom X6 due to lower IPC and fewer cores being utilized by games.
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How in the world do you see a processor that will play the latest games at the best settings for less than the competition as "terrible? In my world performing the same task for less is called a "bargain", not "deceptive marketing" and "terrible" as you have imagined. If you want to pay more to do the exact same thing as you could do for less you are welcome to do so, but it doesn't change anything about those that choose not to.
i5-2500k - 220 bucks on the Egg. FX-8150 - 279 bucks. Don't see how 279 is less than 220. Was there a memo I didn't get?
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Guys... this is a good thing.

An everyday consumer that don't really care about benchmarks is going to see a 8 core high clock speed CPU and be amazed. Intel will eventually have to counter since the mass public don't really understand that AMD is actually selling an inferior product. Worked for Intel back in the P4 vs Athlon days.

Win/Win for consumers. Now to play the waiting game.
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How in the world do you see a processor that will play the latest games at the best settings for less than the competition as "terrible? In my world performing the same task for less is called a "bargain", not "deceptive marketing" and "terrible" as you have imagined. If you want to pay more to do the exact same thing as you could do for less you are welcome to do so, but it doesn't change anything about those that choose not to.
Could you please back up your claim that BD can compete with other processors on the market? More specifically, what makes the $220 FX-8120 competitive with the $220 2500K? All I've seen in the reviews so far is the FX winning in a very limited number of heavily-threaded benchmarks while the 2500K wipes the floor with it in everything else while consuming much, much less power.

I'm sorry if you already posted this previously, but this thread is far too long to scan for a single post.
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Could you please back up your claim that BD can compete with other processors on the market? More specifically, what makes the $220 FX-8120 competitive with the $220 2500K? All I've seen in the reviews so far is the FX winning in a very limited number of heavily-threaded benchmarks while the 2500K wipes the floor with it in everything else while consuming much, much less power.

I'm sorry if you already posted this previously, but this thread is far too long to scan for a single post.
He's just going to post those GPU limited tests again lol...just wait for it
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How in the world do you see a processor that will play the latest games at the best settings for less than the competition as "terrible?
because it still yeilds lower FPS than a 2500k for $40 more + power costs, providing your not limiting the equation with a limited GPU.

and yes it can play the newest games @ highest settings.

$270 cpu for 102 FPS in Crysis 2(after overclock) or $219 cpu for 130 FPS in crysis 2 (before overclock)
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How in the world do you see a processor that will play the latest games at the best settings for less than the competition as "terrible? In my world performing the same task for less is called a "bargain", not "deceptive marketing" and "terrible" as you have imagined. If you want to pay more to do the exact same thing as you could do for less you are welcome to do so, but it doesn't change anything about those that choose not to.
Lol, wut? The 2500k is cheaper than BD and performs much better in gaming according to 99% of benchmarks....
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