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Originally Posted by jrbroad77 View Post
Clearly there's a supply issue with BD(I'd be shocked if more than 100 sold). They could meet demand with 10k CPU's throught the end of Q4.
Nah. Regular people saw "8 Cores" and were like:

Oh em gee, dat haz da cores. imma get.
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Man. this is awful. Should I upgrade to a cheap Phenom II 955 or grab an Intel system instead?
Get a 2500k, best bang for the buck! with a H60 cooling, you be the bees knees and a overclocking machine
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Nah. Regular people saw "8 Cores" and were like:

Oh em gee, dat haz da cores. imma get.
The joke's on them, once they switch in a 8-core for their 6-core and see lower performance they'll probably break their computer.
 
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Sir, they are testing BF3, the latest and greatest in PC gaming graphics, at 1200p on Ultra settings. That screams GPU bottleneck.

From the H OCP Review:

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In order to keep the game from being GPU limited we set back the resolution and settings. We ran this game at 1920x1200 with NO AA, and 16X AF with "Ultra" settings. Note that all AA was off, including deferred MSAA and Post AA. Our average framerates were at an acceptable level of gameplay performance for competitive BF3 gamers with these settings.
Any other straws you are thinking about reaching for to poo poo a review that you don't like? At some point you and the other are just going to have to come to grips with the fact that FXs are going to be gaming beasts. Or not, I guess you can just keep on denying, but for everybody else the reality will be that FX = Game beast
    
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The joke's on them, once they switch in a 8-core for their 6-core and see lower performance they'll probably break their computer.
But that's the thing. Are regular consumers even going to notice? If they cared about higher performance, wouldn't they have read at least ONE review before purchasing? I can't see someone going to the effort of buying a new CPU to replace his/her old one without doing some research first. That's why I think Bulldozer may do quite well in the pre-built PC market.
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ok, this thread is now full of AMD and Intel fanboys

we are mature people....people !! stop this nonsense
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The joke's on them, once they switch in a 8-core for their 6-core and see lower performance they'll probably break their computer.
No, they'll have not a goddam clue they're getting less performance at all. First off, their old machine was probably bogged down to crap by malware cause they have no idea how to take care of a machine or format...so ANY new PC is going to be blazing in comparison without them realizing that's the main reason. Secondly, since they have no clue how to get objective benchmarks from the computer, they simply get placebo'd into thinking it's fast. The CPU is brand new! The machine is brand new! That means it's fast! Therefore I think it's fast too!

You guys don't realize this, but the amount of people that actually know anything of any real substance about computers and about computing is WAY less than 1 in 100. I'd even say 1 in 1000 is more realistic.

99.9% of people see 8 cores, see the speed, see the sweet packaging and graphic design and see the price. The salesman says it's great too and it's cheaper than the Intel computer.

All they know is this:
1) I can get 8 cores @ 3.6 gigasomethings for $1,000
2) I can get 4 cores @ 3.4 gigasomethings for $1,200

"You'd have to be a moron to pick #2!!!"

AMD is turning CPU cores into what megapixels became.

A single number you look at and decide on the purchase without understanding what it actually means to you. "WOW a 34 megapixel camera!!!" when they don't realize that unless you're rocking a full 35mm sensor, those 34 MPs are actually WORSE than 6 would have been.
Edited by kweechy - 10/12/11 at 10:29pm
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heres a thought, what about disabling 2-4 cores and boosting the remaining cores to the max? like what some users do with the phenom II x6s. think maybe that would boost overall performance, and drop a little power consumption? just a thought.
    
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From the H OCP Review:



Any other straws you are thinking about reaching for to poo poo a review that you don't like? At some point you and the other are just going to have to come to grips with the fact that FXs are going to be gaming beasts. Or not, I guess you can just keep on denying, but for everybody else the reality will be that FX = Game beast
The reviewer is simply wrong. 1920x1200 with all Ultra (read: max) settings is still very much a GPU bottleneck. You don't need to ramp up AA to create a bottleneck in that game.
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Did you by chance take a look at BOTH of the BF3 charts?
In case you didn't here they are again:
Stock clocks:

Overclocked to 4.8GHz


Clearly a GPU bottleneck. If you think otherwise you are delusional. I fully expect this post to be ignored though.
Edited by mad0314 - 10/12/11 at 10:31pm
    
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