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That's fine, then show off the eyefinity benchmarks. Just saying, the graph used by the OP shows that at those resolutions, gameplay experience would be identical for users of either platform.
In the article they mentioned the use of 120hz monitors, where there would be a difference.
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That's fine, then show off the eyefinity benchmarks. Just saying, the graph used by the OP shows that at those resolutions, gameplay experience would be identical for users of either platform.
You are also under the assumption that all users have a 60 Hz monitor. The review also doesn't deal with microstutter which one particular cause has been known to be slow CPU delivery.

You also forget that there is a probability that an overclocked 1100T will perform superior to the FX8150, making it not only a poor choice in performance, but a poor choice in price to pick one up.
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I still think something is severely limiting Bulldozer's performance. There's no way 2 Billion transistors and a more "advanced" design yield this kind of crap performance over a previous generation.
I agree. Seems to me, one performance limitation is due to shared resources inside the module. The same issue affects intel hyperthreading. It's a known fact that intel hyperthreading can reduce performance in some situations.

One possible fix is to change core number in windows. Something like this:

Instead of
core 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7
change to
core 0,2,4,6,7,5,3,1

use only one core from each module. after that, load the second core in each module.

All these reviews/benchmarks which we see, will need to be redone after this change is made.

Questions:
how will this change be made? Why isn't AMD rushing to fix this, right now?
Edited by Partol - 10/13/11 at 8:03am
     
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I apologize if this has already been posted.
Guru3d has a BD review with fx4100/6100.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx...mance-review/1

Looks like fx4100 in many cases is even slower than A8-3850.
Edited by ekg84 - 10/13/11 at 8:02am
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You are also under the assumption that all users have a 60 Hz monitor. The review also doesn't deal with microstutter which one particular cause has been known to be slow CPU delivery.

You also forget that there is a probability that an overclocked 1100T will perform superior to the FX8150, making it not only a poor choice in performance, but a poor choice in price to pick one up.
Do people still buy 60hz monitors? I've had my 120hz for months and its amazing
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I'm not sure why they didn't use a 2500K in the review instead of the 2600K. Results would have been identical
Its Hyperthreading isn't being utilized in any of the games, so the performance is on par with the 2500K, like it always is in games. They were merely benching the latest top offerings from both.
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I apologize if this has already been posted.
Guru3d has a BD review with fx4100/6100.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx...mance-review/1

Looks like fx4100 in many cases is even slower than A8-3850.
Where is the 2500K in that review?
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Its Hyperthreading isn't being utilized in any of the games, so the performance is on par with the 2500K, like it always is in games. They were merely benching the latest top offerings from both.
I know why they did it. Having a 2500K wipe the floor with a more expensive 8150 would have been more embarrassing.
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if they are so bad why is EVERY retailer sold out of them?
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if they are so bad why is EVERY retailer sold out of them?
Because AMD is better at marketing than manufacturing
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