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You are also under the assumption that all users have a 60 Hz monitor. The review also doesn't deal with microstutter which one particular cause has been known to be slow CPU delivery.

You also forget that there is a probability that an overclocked 1100T will perform superior to the FX8150, making it not only a poor choice in performance, but a poor choice in price to pick one up.
Again, if that is your point, they need benchmarks to illustrate the point.

Everyone that has quoted me seems to miss the point of my post (which is still valid) in that the graph shown by the OP shows superiority of the SB platform, but does not show/indicate a bad user experience on BD.

PS. I would bet that 60hz is the STANDARD for gaming monitors and will account for 90% of the current systems out there.
    
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if they are so bad why is EVERY retailer sold out of them?
Because normal consumers are dumb
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if they are so bad why is EVERY retailer sold out of them?
None of them have stock yet lol
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Well they need to stop designing cpus around sockets and compatibility and focus on architecture and performance gains.

I have a feeling as long as they keep the AM3/3+ around nothing is going to change much.
Thats a problem though. Compatiablity was one of the things that makes AMD CPU's so viable and great. You didn't need to buy a new board every time you wanted a new CPU. AMD has generally always been better at the money saving aspect. But Bulldozer is the exact opposite of what AMD usually produces.
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lol, I don't care about performance per watt, I am not running a laptop here. I run my system full bore 24/7. Yes, it shows the inefficiencies that BD has but for us enthusiasts, performance per watt means next to nothing.

I also don't ever run my system at a paltry 1080 resolution, I am way beyond that, Brotha. I want to know where BD stands with high end GPUs, with high end resolutions and high end graphic settings if we are gonna discuss gaming. 1080p is so 2 years ago.

In the 'real world' most people don't sit around running benchmarks and overclocking their CPUs to the limits. They run at stock for everything. At stock, BD compares to a 2500K in rendering, encoding and other multi threaded apps just as it should being a multi core CPU. No one is gonna notice that their web browser opened 1/1000th of a second slower because single threaded performance is lower. At stock settings the CPU uses 125 (or 95) watts just like a Phenom II. From the review sites, at stock settings, cool n quiet actually work on BD compared to Thubans. It even does better than Intel's i5 series in some tests.
You make it sound like you're an enthusiast. If that's the case, BD shouldn't even be a consideration for you considering it's miserable performance in almost all cases, and it is grossly inefficient. If you want efficiency, go with Sandy Bridge, if you want best performance, go with Sandy Bridge or possibly a 990x (depending on what you use the CPU for), if you want best price/performance, go with Sandy Bridge. I'd like to say there's a good reason to go with Bulldozer, but I'm being entirely serious when I say I really cannot think of a good reason.

As was already posted on the last page, at extreme gaming settings Bulldozer fails even harder:
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/43...d/index14.html
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Just made the switch from my sig rig to BD. I am hoping I can bulldoze my way out of a box.
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Again, if that is your point, they need benchmarks to illustrate the point.

Everyone that has quoted me seems to miss the point of my post (which is still valid) in that the graph shown by the OP shows superiority of the SB platform, but does not show/indicate a bad user experience on BD.

PS. I would bet that 60hz is the STANDARD for gaming monitors and will account for 90% of the current systems out there.
Agreed. Just because some new tech comes out doesn't mean you HAVE to have it.

I am perfectly fine with my Acer. Looks great after 4 years, not a single dead pixel. Still looks beautiful. Why the hell would I upgrade just to say OMGZ I HAV TEH LATEST HZ MONITORZ.
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Dunno if posted already.

AMD FX-8150 vs. Intel i7-2600k CrossFireX HD 6970 x3 Head-to-Head:

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/43...ad/index1.html
Wow, that is a BRUTAL test for BD. Maybe now Jagged can see what a CPU-bottleneck looks like....
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Super sexy budget Phenom II 955 or FX 4100 build I see in my future. Them 955s are just over a hundred bucks now. Love it when new stuff comes out, I can almost afford new old stuff lol =) Was really hoping to see some some low wattage dozers though, just for some powerhouse itx builds.
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I honestly can't figure out a reason to buy an FX 4100 over an A-3850. The Llano is faster and you don't even need to buy a gpu if you just do casual computing. I'm seriously considering the A-3850 for a build I'm doing for my father-in-law...
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