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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post
Also forgot to mentioned considering they had 3-GPU they not test 1 and 2 cards also.
Personally i could have lived with a Xfire comparo. I don't even believe i'll run 3 cards in my lifetime
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FINALLY. Someone supports a 990x for performance. Woot. I feel like my 990x gets hated on more than loved.....

OT: Sandybridge still beats out BD and that's not even with SB-E on the table.
i love the 990x, just not the price tag. To be honest, if i had the $ i would def buy one..then i would sell more sperm to pay for a motherboard.
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may i ask why reviewers ALWAYS, LIKE 99% ALWAYS bench these things on DIFFERENT CLOCKS? i mean..honestly, we all knew SB beats BD. but really..whats the point if youre gonna do 5.2ghz vs. 4.75ghz?? whats wrong with leaving both at 4.7??!?!? i dont get these retarded reviewers man. having better/stronger/faster architecture is one thing, but putting them on clocks that gives them PURE WIN is another.. ferrari with 600hp vs. porsche with 500hp. hmm...ferrari def wins..but thanks to the great differnce in the engine, its now PURE WIN.
p.s.. - they dare to say "apples to apples" well obv. u failed if you cant even have both systems configured accordingly to eachother.
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I don't doubt it and I totally smell what you are cooking. I don't disagree with SB's superiority in gaming.

My original reply was in response to the OP's graph and the OP's graph only.
So you get the same user experience in one game? Again, no thanks. I really have been a huge AMD fan over the years, but Bulldozer is disappointing.
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Because AMD haven't produced enough of them for most online retailers.
And selling a product faster than you can make them is bad? AMD is also selling more Llanos than they can produce. AMD is also selling more 6950/70/90s than they can produce. So they have several new products that people are standing in line for, and what I hear (in this forum anyways) is that somehow this = failure for AMD which of course is completely ridiculous. I operated a manufacturing business for a decade or so, and I can tell you from experience that having higher demand than you can keep up with is a heck of a lot better position to be in than being able to crank out lots of products that are not wanted.
    
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So you get the same user experience in one game? Again, no thanks. I really have been a huge AMD fan over the years, but Bulldozer is disappointing.
*sigh*

Please note I did not say: Buy BD anyway, this one benchmark on this one site clearly shows all things are equal.

Instead I said: In this scenario, while SB is faster the user experience is the same.

It is that simple. Nothing more, nothing less.
    
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The silliest thing here is the fact that they compared 4.7Ghz to 5.2Ghz. TweakTown reviews are terrible anyway.
^This. How stupid. Really fair isnt it? Looks like theres 1 reviewer that should be nixxed.
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test is invalid as anyone here would tell you. .5ghz difference is huge and you act like its nothing. im the first to admit BD is a flop to us here. but to talk about failing harder....it is u sir who have failed.
Surely you're not comparing clock speed between two entirely different architectures as if that matters somehow.

So if I compare a Pentium 4 to a Sandy Bridge I need to compare them at the same clock speeds? It's probably better to instead test any CPUs you're comparing at both stock, and the fastest you can get them to run on air/water/etc.

If you want to go down that road then maybe we also rig the test to run both CPUs at the same TDP as well, just to be fair...
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AMD is facing supply-side deficiencies due to poor 32nm yields as well as ramp and manufacturing issues with GF Dresden. Demand may exceed their limited supply, but that reflects supply-side issues more so than strong demand IMO.
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Surely you're not comparing clock speed between two entirely different architectures as if that matters somehow.

So if I compare a Pentium 4 to a Sandy Bridge I need to compare them at the same clock speeds? It's probably better to instead test any CPUs you're comparing at both stock, and the fastest you can get them to run on air/water/etc.

If you want to go down that road then maybe we also rig the test to run both CPUs at the same TDP as well, just to be fair...
The average person has no idea what IPC is. In reality I think they'll sell well at the local bestbuy to the average consumer:

"Oh it has a bigger number it must be better".

"8 Cores! wow that must be so much better then these 4 core cpu's"
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