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post #1861 of 2308
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Originally Posted by NirXY View Post

1. AMD has no money for R&D as Intel has - AMD is just too cheap to dump money into R&D. You can't make money without spending it.
2. Intel hurt AMD financially in the passed with their shady businesses - AMD has settled for $1.5B, why can't you settle ?, not to mention AMD made sure plenty of folks upgraded their MB before they showed any benchmarks, only a lot of empty promises, not shady enough? But also remember they were comparing a generation old chip this entire time. It's like sandy bridge didn't exist for them at all. Thought should have been a day-1 indicator to begin with.
3. I buy AMD because they offer top perf/$ - not since 2500k, and specially not now, yet you still repeat the same old phrase for some reason.
4. I only care about real life performance, I don't care about synthetics - there were plenty of real life benchmarks available last 24h, yet somehow you skip those. The only ones that actually show BD being ahead or sites like hardware heaven that actually showed on many occasions they bend to AMD like showing a 6970 being ahead of Nvidia.
5. AMD did not promise anything they didn't deliver - besides the fact that they actually did promise improved performance and IPC, don't you find it a bit non-relevant ? we buy CPU's, not promises.
6. BD is aimed for Workstations, not desktops - not with that power usage, and it's not what AMD said either.
7. BD ain't being utilized well with software - we as consumers shouldn't care, if we can't use that CPU now why sell it ? go ahead and ask MS to apologize for W7, see how well that goes.

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I had to add a few things, but excellent post.
post #1862 of 2308
sad thread is this

amd fanboys fighting desperately to find a reason to praise Bulldozer

and Intel fanboys in the verge of an orgasm every time they see a Benchmark or news showing the failure of Bulldozer

seriously.....and I leave Gametrailers and join this forum for the "mature" users
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Originally Posted by GTR Mclaren View Post
sad thread is this

amd fanboys fighting desperately to find a reason to praise Bulldozer

and Intel fanboys in the verge of an orgasm every time they see a Benchmark or news showing the failure of Bulldozer

seriously.....and I leave Gametrailers and join this forum for the "mature" users
Actually I very few people in the discussion have demonstrated that. Most of the "fanboys" leave a comment or two and leave the thread, those actually discussing things post valid points whether they prefer and/or currently own Intel/AMD computers. Out of those actually discussing valid arguments, I would guess that very few, if any, were rooting for BD to fail. It is because it is widely seen as a failure that the failure is brought up, and many people are looking for the source, if any, of BD's lackluster performance.
    
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I love my 2600k more and more every day. Even after the horror that was the cougar point fiasco, this little baby has been at the top of the performance charts since January and, judging by BD'ss lackluster performance , should remain there until Intel decides to one-up itself with IB and SB-E...
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Sooo....we can pretty much agree BD croaked.
Really sad considering that BD stood potential of dropping Intel prices.

BD did do good in the media area, but its pretty lame when it comes to processing capability. On Anandtech, my Phenom 955 seems to be pretty close to the BD 8150. Sad.
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AMD faltering is not good for anyone to be honest, it hurts the market as a whole, also releasing products before they are completely done seems to be the norm anymore because the whole world seems to pressure companies to put their products out RIGHT NOW due to the lack of patience.
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[DG's Nerdy Story]

Translated by Google

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"½ module = 1 core, 1 core ≠ ½ module"

What does sound uninvolved.
1 / 2 module is a core 1-core, but not the half module?

This part of the bulldozer "in module 'to test the core and optionally turn off the gamyeo '2-core as a' module performance and
Without a shared resource ohrothi 'module 1 core' is to compare the performance when running on.
It has a modular design with traditional core design features when compared with the will to learn.
Found
Source





Through disabling core 2,4,6 and 8 (as seen by the bios (1,3,5,7 logistical)) letting each core fully use each modules resources and giving it more cache, this reviewer is seeing up to around 20% higher IPC than running 4m/8c.
Thought it was interesting to see how sharing resources through the module depletes Bulldozers IPC.

So... disable 4 cores for a few years until software catches up? Would like to see how and if disabling half the cores lightens the power load any.
Edited by pengs - 10/13/11 at 6:53pm
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Hmm.. Interesting..
    
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That's weird :s
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3.19 cinebench for 4 core still isnt as good as phenom II
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