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Look, AMD priced the FX 8150 to slot inbetween the 2500k and 2600k. When paired with the right motherboard, the FX 8150 fits perfectly. Do you honestly believe AMD would price themselves out of the market when their product doesn't deliver? They don't have the funds to do that; they have to be competitive on the price front from the get-go, or they can't move inventory.
It does beg the question then, of why AMD would use the Asus board in the review kits for their new flagship processor. Clearly they can't be that stupid?
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BD is a radically different design from anything out there. A proper bios could make a difference in performance... not 50% difference, but 10-15% isn't out of the question.

From the reviewers that used the ASRock 990FX motherboards, BD was on par with or beat an i5 2500k in almost all of their tests. In some cases, it was neck and neck with the 2600k (and in a rare few, it beat the 2600k). The FX 8150 also showed to be significantly faster than any Phenom II X6 in multi-threaded applications in the ASRock motherboards too.

The reviewers that used the ASUS 990FX board were collectively disappointed because BD failed to even match the i5 2500k. This isn't a coincidence; there is a real issue with the current BIOS in the Crosshair V motherboard.


Look, AMD priced the FX 8150 to slot inbetween the 2500k and 2600k. When paired with the right motherboard, the FX 8150 fits perfectly. Do you honestly believe AMD would price themselves out of the market when their product doesn't deliver? They don't have the funds to do that; they have to be competitive on the price front from the get-go, or they can't move inventory.
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One of my friends who is stationed overseas still is running a B2 board that I had bought for him in january and shipped to him and he has had zero issues with it. I remember reading one thread over at XS but that was it. If you use the sata 3 ports you'll never have an issue.
So I don't use a feature that I paid for because I'm worried about data corruption, and also limit myself to fewer sata ports for my fancy RAID party?

Your argument is not valid, sir.
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The only amd cpus that I will use now would probably be the apus. They are the best htpc cpus Ive ever seen. A great cpu for low budget build if you are gaming at low res.
    
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So I don't use a feature that I paid for because I'm worried about data corruption, and also limit myself to fewer sata ports for my fancy RAID party?

Your argument is not valid, sir.
What he's saying is that if you own something that's broken in a way you don't use then you're not really affected. Of course shipping broken hardware isn't acceptable, which is why Intel recalled them.
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Maybe all it needs is, you know, a software patch, perhaps something called a driver?

At the moment, using the FX CPU's as they are right now, without a proper driver or BIOS or software patch or whatever, it could be like playing games without your GPU driver installed:

Sure it works, but what about optimisations?

Hence, people of OCN, you make me
You missed my point, I said why release something that isn't already supported. By that I mean to say that AMD should have known many months ago this would happen and gotten the support before they tried to sell this to people.
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http://forum.jogos.uol.com.br/amd-vi...1727300?page=7

Brazilian review. BD seriously sucks gaming wise in their tests anyway.
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I want to see more people confirming this.

I think that in their deep, everyone wanted AMD to hit hard on Intel, and to blame was the long time marketing strategy and so many delays, only made us think that WOW this would be a hell of a chip.

The biggest mistake is to call this line the FX line. Only should be used if sure that would melt the competition. For me, the BE status would suffice.

Right now I want to see other reviewers confirm this. I have seen reviews with ASROCK boards but as the majority goes with ASUS, I still want to wait and see.

Maybe this would put the knifes away from AMD's neck...

EDIT:
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Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post
BD is a radically different design from anything out there. A proper bios could make a difference in performance... not 50% difference, but 10-15% isn't out of the question.

From the reviewers that used the ASRock 990FX motherboards, BD was on par with or beat an i5 2500k in almost all of their tests. In some cases, it was neck and neck with the 2600k (and in a rare few, it beat the 2600k). The FX 8150 also showed to be significantly faster than any Phenom II X6 in multi-threaded applications in the ASRock motherboards too.

The reviewers that used the ASUS 990FX board were collectively disappointed because BD failed to even match the i5 2500k. This isn't a coincidence; there is a real issue with the current BIOS in the Crosshair V motherboard.


Look, AMD priced the FX 8150 to slot inbetween the 2500k and 2600k. When paired with the right motherboard, the FX 8150 fits perfectly. Do you honestly believe AMD would price themselves out of the market when their product doesn't deliver? They don't have the funds to do that; they have to be competitive on the price front from the get-go, or they can't move inventory.
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Aren't the Asrock boards made by ASUS?

If that's the case, shouldn't it be reasonable to assume the BIOS teams may be the same people?

Or are they not the same company?
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Aren't the Asrock boards made by ASUS?

IF that's the case, shouldn't it be reasonable to assume the BIOS teams may be the same people?

Or Are they not the same company?
AFAIK, Asrock and Asus split some years ago.
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