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AFAIK, Asrock and Asus split some years ago.
In 2008
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Cliffs notes anyone?
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AFAIK, Asrock and Asus split some years ago.
Oh, I didn't realize that. Apparently, there is still a lot of confusion about it:

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=151469
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Cliffs notes anyone?
Bulldozer sucked, buy i5 2500k for gaming, i7 2600k for multithreaded work, or Phenom II X6 for upgrade if you already own AM3 mobo.
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http://forum.jogos.uol.com.br/amd-vi...1727300?page=7

Brazilian review. BD seriously sucks gaming wise in their tests anyway.
Same results just in Brazillian....
Did you even look at the sources?
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Interesting results from rage3d, they claim that NB OC can significantly boost BD performance. 2600K lagging behind i7 920 in charts looks a bit strange though.

http://www.rage3d.com/reviews/cpu/am.../index.php?p=1
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Speaking in consumer terms (Server and HPC were a different story).

Core 2 was still 10% faster per clock and overclocked better because Phenom had a cold bug. AMD didn't catch up with core 2 until Phenom II. Bulldozer is (at best) 25% slower per clock. Until clockspeeds improve and the bottlenecks are removed, Bulldozer is not competitive.
I wasn't talking about clock for clock. I was talking about value for gaming. the B3 stepping made a big difference in the first Phenom & you could get a quad core for about the price of a core 2 duo. Which is sort of like the current situation, more efficient quads vs less efficient octo & the octo needs a efficacy boost from a revision.

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Now come on! Phenom X4 came out after Core 2 Quad. It was no competition, a Q6600 at 4ghz blew away a 9950 at 3.2ish(max OC vs max OC).

Anyway the 8-core BD comes close to competing with Intel's best quads. I guess that's good? Doesn't really beat a 2600k multithreaded even (well, 20% on occasion, with double the transistor count)
I said Core 2 Duo. not quad. the c2 quad was more expensive than the Phenom X4 at launch. the Q6600 was over $850 when it was new. The Phenom X4 9500 launched around $250, which is why i said it was competing w/ Core 2 duos.

The funny part is the Core 2 Duos were even beating the Q6600 when it was new because few games made much use of quad cores.

Point i was making is, we're in a similar situation now, where very few games actually make much use of over 4 cores. But you take one of those old quad cores now, and match it against a dual core in a new game; and the dual core will be slower, even though it used to be faster in games.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/682/11/



that being said, BD does need a slight tune up.

I was waiting for BD, but now I guess ill be waiting until Kepler/Southern Islands and re-evaluate my choices then. I refuse to go SB, i might go SB-E if BD doesn't show an improvement & SB-E doesn't include all the things I dislike about SB (remotely accessible serial #s, etc..).
    
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You know I think I have been convinced, i think i am going to get a Bulldozer chip anyways. Looks like i am going to get the FX 6100, since all the focus is on the 8150. I will probably get my chip this weekend from Microcenter, if they have any in stock. If they do i will post current benches with my PHII chip at 4.2-4.4ghz and then use the same benches for the FX 6100.
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You know I think I have been convinced, i think i am going to get a Bulldozer chip anyways. Looks like i am going to get the FX 6100, since all the focus is on the 8150. I will probably get my chip this weekend from Microcenter, if they have any in stock. If they do i will post current benches with my PHII chip at 4.2-4.4ghz and then use the same benches for the FX 6100.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx...rmance-review/

You would really spend money on the FX 6100? It doesn't even come boxed in a tin, that's the only reason to buy the 8 cores. With that thrown out the window why are you going to buy one?
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You know I think I have been convinced, i think i am going to get a Bulldozer chip anyways. Looks like i am going to get the FX 6100, since all the focus is on the 8150. I will probably get my chip this weekend from Microcenter, if they have any in stock. If they do i will post current benches with my PHII chip at 4.2-4.4ghz and then use the same benches for the FX 6100.
I recommend waiting till a new stepping or at the least a few weeks for more data/information.

If you do though, you better post impressions/benchies. Of course you have a CHV, so that variance isn't there .
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