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You know I think I have been convinced, i think i am going to get a Bulldozer chip anyways. Looks like i am going to get the FX 6100, since all the focus is on the 8150. I will probably get my chip this weekend from Microcenter, if they have any in stock. If they do i will post current benches with my PHII chip at 4.2-4.4ghz and then use the same benches for the FX 6100.
i guess u do have the crosshair 5 already..
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Lol, its almost like folks dont want others to buy these things because they are scared they will be happy with one. Or else why would people care sooo much. Too funny. I will still have my 955, and if the 6100 is just absolute trash, then Im sure there will be many buyers still out there at this point in time. Majority of the buying crowd are not enthusiast like us. Plus people just like to tinker. Selling these should be no problem.
Edited by Chuckclc - 10/14/11 at 10:23am
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Lol, its almost like folks dont want others to buy these things because they are scared they will be happy with one. Or else why would people care sooo much. Too funny. I will still have my 955, and if the 6100 is just absolute trash, then Im sure there will be many buyers still out there at this point in time. Majority of the buying crowd are not enthusiast like us. Plus people just like to tinker. Selling these should be no problem.
...unless the person is an Intel fanboy, in which case said person will whip out their 2500k/2600k and rub it in their face. It's already happening a lot on these boards.

For those that like to tinker, BD is great. For those that want absolute performance, BD is not.
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...unless the person is an Intel fanboy, in which case said person will whip out their 2500k/2600k and rub it in their face. It's already happening a lot on these boards.

For those that like to tinker, BD is great. For those that want absolute performance, BD is not.
I hope you're not referring to me... Look at the link I just posted on guru3d, the FX 6100 loses fairly often to the older Phenom II architecture, even the quads! If you want to "tinker" on AMD you would be better off buying the 960T. You have the fun of unlocking cores and overclocking any way you want.

And by the way, check out my second computer, that I upgraded the motherboard for specifically Bulldozer. I'm just as disappointed as all the AMD fangirls. I buy either brand determined on price/performance and Bulldozer offers neither over previous Phenom II models and especially Sandy Bridge.
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I wasn't talking about clock for clock. I was talking about value for gaming. the B3 stepping made a big difference in the first Phenom & you could get a quad core for about the price of a core 2 duo. Which is sort of like the current situation, more efficient quads vs less efficient octo & the octo needs a efficacy boost from a revision.


I said Core 2 Duo. not quad. the c2 quad was more expensive than the Phenom X4 at launch. the Q6600 was over $850 when it was new. The Phenom X4 9500 launched around $250, which is why i said it was competing w/ Core 2 duos.

The funny part is the Core 2 Duos were even beating the Q6600 when it was new because few games made much use of quad cores.

Point i was making is, we're in a similar situation now, where very few games actually make much use of over 4 cores. But you take one of those old quad cores now, and match it against a dual core in a new game; and the dual core will be slower, even though it used to be faster in games.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/682/11/



that being said, BD does need a slight tune up.

I was waiting for BD, but now I guess ill be waiting until Kepler/Southern Islands and re-evaluate my choices then. I refuse to go SB, i might go SB-E if BD doesn't show an improvement & SB-E doesn't include all the things I dislike about SB (remotely accessible serial #s, etc..).
I somewhat agree. At stock speeds, my Phenom 9950 was a bit better in dollar/performance. When both my Phenom and Q6600 were overclocked, the dollar/performance was better for the Q6600 (though there was something to be said for overall system costs).
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Interesting results from rage3d, they claim that NB OC can significantly boost BD performance. 2600K lagging behind i7 920 in charts looks a bit strange though.

http://www.rage3d.com/reviews/cpu/am.../index.php?p=1
Definitely the most thorough review I've read

Shame they didn't include a 2500k, also the 2600k results seem odd, maybe due to slow ram?
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Ehhh.
I'll buy a BD on the basis that it's pretty much as good as what I have for 2-4 threads, and will help with heavy thread stuff when I need it.
I also don't have to buy a new mobo, which saves me some cash.
It seems to be a good general purpose chip, not great on anything, but good for everything.
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Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post
...unless the person is an Intel fanboy, in which case said person will whip out their 2500k/2600k and rub it in their face. It's already happening a lot on these boards.

For those that like to tinker, BD is great. For those that want absolute performance, BD is not.
I've seen a lot of the Intel fanboy bragging as well, BD buyers can still point to how much they paid for their 2600k originally, not what it sells for right now. That helps even the playing field a little in terms of "bragging" but if I was buying today there is no way I'd go for a bulldozer over Sandy (or Ivy soon)
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One of my friends who is stationed overseas still is running a B2 board that I had bought for him in january and shipped to him and he has had zero issues with it. I remember reading one thread over at XS but that was it. If you use the sata 3 ports you'll never have an issue.
Sounds like you don;t know too much about it. Intel says the you'll have a problem within 3 years.
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Sounds like you don;t know too much about it. Intel says the you'll have a problem within 3 years.
You'll never have any issues if you never use the affected SATA ports...
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