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Originally Posted by Chuckclc;15308225 
Im still not 100% convinced BD cannot improve with Bios updates. When I Bios comes out that seems to be more targeted for the cpu then I will concede defeat.

Honestly, if you want to say "I believe in AMD," your money would be better spent buying sixty shares of their stock and selling it off when they have a good enough product to drive prices back up. If this magical BIOS fix happens? Your good faith may pay for an SSD when the product actually becomes something worth buying!

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Originally Posted by GTR Mclaren;15309185 
lol

double Failure this year

Sandy Bridge recall and Bulldozer performance
Double failure all the way across the board? So intense!
    
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Originally Posted by alancsalt;15303213 
I suspect there may be some truth in this:

...That changed before I left – they started to rely on synthesis tools, automatic place and route tools, etc...

http://www.insideris.com/amd-spreads-propaganda-ex-employee-speaks-out/

AMD used to lead the way. From 2000 to 2007 all my systems were AMD.

if AMD supplies the design or blueprint w/e based on the hand crafter cpus to those companies, why cant the machines duplicate them correctly? or are we dealing with something along the lines of a Stratavarious violin duplication probs?
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Originally Posted by Roll Cam Tide;15307856 
I've seen a lot of the Intel fanboy bragging as well, BD buyers can still point to how much they paid for their 2600k originally, not what it sells for right now. That helps even the playing field a little in terms of "bragging" but if I was buying today there is no way I'd go for a bulldozer over Sandy (or Ivy soon)

2600k price hasn't changed since launch.
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Originally Posted by mad0314;15308667 
His argument was for said person overseas still using a B2 board, and it is true in his case.

Also, Intel did you say that you WILL undoubtedly have problems in exactly 3 years 100%.

The attitude surround a billion dollar recall is astounding. rolleyes.gif

I'm done with this, if you want to continue. PM me.
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The i5-2500k is $204 on newegg, just sayin...
    
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So everyone calls BD a failure. Sure, when comparing against Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge. But is it that of a failure if upgrading from a Phenom X4 to an FX 6100 series won't be that much of a difference in benches and real-world performance?
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Originally Posted by jjsoviet;15309998 
So everyone calls BD a failure. Sure, when comparing against Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge. But is it that of a failure if upgrading from a Phenom X4 to an FX 6100 series won't be that much of a difference in benches and real-world performance?

The problem isn't that Bulldozer couldn't beat Sandy Bridge but that it often gets tossed aside by even the Phenom. While there are scenarios in which the FX series may win here and there, the Phenom series offers an overall better balance of performance, especially if you play games at all.

Most AMD fans probably wouldn't mind buying this processor if they didn't feel like the were taking a step backwards from their current Phenom II processors.
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So everyone calls BD a failure. Sure, when comparing against Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge. But is it that of a failure if upgrading from a Phenom X4 to an FX 6100 series won't be that much of a difference in benches and real-world performance?

If I wanted to spend $190 to see no positive result, I'd take up smoking again.
    
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Originally Posted by jivenjune;15310179 
The problem isn't that Bulldozer couldn't beat Sandy Bridge but that it often gets tossed aside by even the Phenom. While there are scenarios in which the FX series may win here and there, the Phenom series offers an overall better balance of performance, especially if you play games at all.

Most AMD fans probably wouldn't mind buying this processor if they didn't feel like the were taking a step backwards from their current Phenom II processors.
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If I wanted to spend $190 to see no positive result, I'd take up smoking again.

Then I guess I have saved myself $200 for something else, then.
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Then I guess I have saved myself $200 for something else, then.

a SSD or memory since its dirt cheap biggrin.gif
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