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Originally Posted by MeatloafOverdose View Post
That's the 3960X. That isn't 77W TDP.

I know it wasn't your post, but I felt obliged to make the correction in any case.
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SB-E is not the same as IB.

IB will offer ipc improvements among the lines of bloomfield>>westmere
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That's 6 core SB-E, not Ivy.

However, I think Ivy Bridge quad cores could be that much faster than Sandy quads:

10-15% IPC increase with 15-20% greater OCing capability. Which puts it in a range of 26.5% to 38% faster than SB.

Even if it's only 5% IPC gains and 10% OCing gains, still looking at a 16% faster chip.

Judging by this 77W TDP though, I'm guessing the clock speed gains will be pretty nice though. Willing to bet 5.5 GHz on air is obtainable...95W is 24% more than 77W which would turn a 5 GHz OC into a 6.1 GHz OC, however with exponentially worse returns, etc, etc, let's say 5.5 GHz.
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My friend's getting one. We oppose all the non-believers, haha!

Seriously, though, I still have faith in this chip
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The 2600K consumes 300W of power when OC'd as well.
I think you need to revise that bit. Pretty sure that a 2600K alone will never draw 300W.
 
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I think you need to revise that bit. Pretty sure that a 2600K alone will never draw 300W.
Then neither does the 8150,if it were to consume over 300 watts then how are normal air and water coolers still keeping the chip at reasonable temps?
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Then neither does the 8150,if it were to consume over 300 watts then how are normal air and water coolers still keeping the chip at reasonable temps?
You're right, it probably won't under a normal OC. However IIRC some reviews measured consumption at ~4.8GHz to around 200W. So, I don't know, but with extreme frequencies and voltage you might be able to get it to touch 300W. Not that it really matters under those circumstances.
 
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The power consumption is also blown out of proportion, most reviews show it using as much power as last gen i7's and x6.
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Like dlee7283 said,BD isn't that bad,and Intel sold Pentium 4 and Pentium D even though AMD's Athlon64 and Athlon 64 X2 was better.
Most people don't just upgrade,they buy a whole new system,you'd be buying a case,mobo,GPU,OS,etc. either way. The 2600K consumes 300W of power when OC'd as well.
BD isn't a bad processor from a price/performance standpoint. It is comparable on both counts. Unfortunately, it is far, far behind in terms of power consumption performance in comparison to current gen Intel offerings. Again, AMD fanboys can argue how it is scaling appropriately due to number of cores. Again, that is a stupid argument, especially given that the 2500K with comparable performance, price, and over clock, achieves this with a substantially lower power consumption on load.

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The power consumption is also blown out of proportion, most reviews show it using as much power as last gen i7's and x6.
Are you seriously trying to compare a new gen CPU to a last gen CPU? It is common knowledge that Nehalem was hugely power hungry and an issue Intel succeeded in addressing with Sandy Bridge. Nehalem was also the most powerful processor upon release, so the performance crown justified the higher power consumption from an enthusiast standpoint. BD has not seized any performance crowns, while having a much greater power consumption level. Short of being a blatant AMD fanboy, there is little justification for recommending a BD build unless you are simply upgrading the CPU, of which you may need to upgrade your PSU as well.
Edited by OC'ing Noob - 10/16/11 at 2:09pm
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The power consumption is also blown out of proportion, most reviews show it using as much power as last gen i7's and x6.
Last Gen I7's were 45nm as well.

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Are you seriously trying to compare a new gen CPU to a last gen CPU? It is common knowledge that Nehalem was hugely power hungry and an issue Intel succeeded in addressing with Westmere. Nehalem was also the most powerful processor upon release, so the performance crown justified the higher power consumption from an enthusiast standpoint. BD has not seized any performance crowns, while having a much greater power consumption level. Short of being a blatant AMD fanboy, there is little justification for recommending a BD build unless you are simply upgrading the CPU, of which you may need to upgrade your PSU as well.
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