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post #261 of 2308
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Originally Posted by dlee7283 View Post
I could have easily chosen the 965BE and it still be a better value than buying a Q9550.....
I bought this CPU in 2008. Your argument that I overpaid for it is void.
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Hate to say it but AMD really shot themselves in the leg with all this. I'm happy I didn't wait and got the 1055T, although an i5 2500 would've been very good too if I had waited for that.
    
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I could have easily chosen the 965BE and it still be a better value than buying a Q9550.....

Just give credit where credit is deserved, quit being an Intel fanboy.
You realize you're comparing a CPU with almost 1GHz clock speed advantage? That's horrible. Of course 965 is a better value, LGA 775 platform is dead.
 
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post #264 of 2308
Those numbers looks horrible.
I've lost the tiny bit of hope I had in AMD.
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post #265 of 2308
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Originally Posted by CJRhoades View Post
Read though the Guru3D, Hardware Cauncks, and TechSpot reviews. What can I say.... AMD, I'm disappointed. I'm really tired of my current rig and was planning to sell it and build a new one when Bulldozer came out but now I don't know what to do.
Just keep it until until AMD makes Bulldozer right.
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post #266 of 2308
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Something just doesn't make sense here... How can you go backwards in performance? Maybe we need more through benchmarks, or a more thorough explanation from AMD... Something just isn't right...
Performance is only "going backwards" in a handful of cases, and this should not surprise anyone.

Basic architectural changes have been known for a very long time, and one of those fundamental changes was that each BD core is narrower, which almost always means lower IPC in at least some scenarios.

Also, this sort of thing is not unprecedented. If you can remember back to late 2000, when the Pentium IV was released at 1.3 and 1.4GHz, you will recall that they were usually slower than 1GHz Pentium IIIs.

Just like the PIII was in 2000, the Phenom II has reached a dead end. BDs first incarnation certainly has it's pros and cons, but the changes are generally positive and will pave the way for more options in the future.
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post #267 of 2308
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You guys are acting like these won't sell. Most of us sure wont buy one, unles it is just to overclock, but the real thing that gives it an advantage in mainstream... "8 core processor". That is all they'll need to sell a computer with one of these at a place like Bestbuy.
Dude, Wanna be my buddy? Lets join force and go to best buy stores and right before people buy a overpriced PC we go like "HEY!!! THIS ONEZZ BETTER MORE C00r2" and watch the employees be like "HEY!!! NO THIS HAZ MORE GIGGLEHUTS" Then, we pull out some benchmarks that we printed before hand.
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Performance is only "going backwards" in a handful of cases, and this should not surprise anyone.

Basic architectural changes have been known for a very long time, and one of those fundamental changes was that each BD core is narrower, which almost always means lower IPC in at least some scenarios.

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Just like the PIII was in 2000, the Phenom II has reached a dead end. BDs first incarnation certainly has it's pros and cons, but the changes are generally positive and will pave the way for more options in the future.
So going by P4 logic BD is going for 6Ghz?
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post #269 of 2308
imma get the next set of bulldozer seems fine to me too many people expect AMD to take over from INTEL with a new arch lol ..... its just not do able they are on the right track though drop the power usage and increase its power in certain areas and id rather a AMD product, INTEL needs to push its big chips or they will end up like Ferrari in F1
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I think a part of me died somewhere in this thread. :de vil:


man i can't believe the scores aren't higher or at least have some better pricing ....wow i mean don't ya think that BD chip needs to be like $160-175 MAX if they plan on competing. I can pick up a i5 2500k for $180 like I did once before. So If this is whats going to go down I'm going to have a lot of computers to sell. an i think the whole world just gave up on AMD.

---from a AMD fan
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