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Anandtech:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/t...-fx8150-tested
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Originally Posted by dantoddd View Post
My memory is a little hazy, but isn't this worse than the P4 debacle?
Pretty much, took AMD 5-6 Years of R&D including 2 years of delays to release something that is basically a side grade from thuban.

Why they didn't just do a thuban die shrink to 32nm with 8 cores and continue working on Bulldozer untill it was clearly better than what they already had we will never know.

Now im off to play Duke Nukem Forever with my FX 8150!
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Only positive spin: Get an FX-4100 and hope it OC's like a beast with watercooling. Should be able to beat an 8150 max OC vs max OC for gaming. And if it can hit 5.5ghz with a Corsair H100.. might be promising.

And yes, I am disappoint. Most likely going IB. No big deal, not like I was delaying a purchase(went for a 24" monitor this summer over a platform switch, not disappointed at all lol).
 
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This is almost exactly what anyone with any sense expected.

Power consumption is a bit high when OCed, but otherwise we have all known about the performance and general overclockability for quite some time.
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This is exactly what I am talking about. AMD has been the king of power consumption and price/performance. This chip is neither good on power or at a price that would make me buy it over a 2500k.

How could you expect this? The single core performance is even down from the previous generation. No one expected that.
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Originally Posted by Blameless View Post
Not AMD's doing, Amazon is gouging.
Looks like a pricing error. I have a feeling that the price will drop down to list when you are able to actually order.

8150 List = $269.99
8120 List = $229.99
6100 List = $189.99

Still too much coin to compete with Intel.
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Holy power consumption!!!
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Specs like what?

99% of the people in this thread don't know a damn thing beyond number of cores, cache size, and clock speed, none of which are even close to being significant basic architectural features.



What?!

This is almost exactly what anyone with any sense expected.

Power consumption is a bit high when OCed, but otherwise we have all known about the performance and general overclockability for quite some time.

Some people like to pretend that final release stepping of chips aren't made many months before release, that everyone on the planet has signed an AMD NDA, and that English speaking nations are the only ones not stuck in the stone age, but they were only deluding themselves.
Sorry but I don't think people were hyped for lower IPC and higher power draw. It's obvious that something, somewhere went wrong and to think otherwise is just being naive.
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From Anandtech:

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Bulldozer is an interesting architecture for sure, but I'm not sure it's quite ready for prime time. AMD clearly needed higher clocks to really make Bulldozer shine and for whatever reason it was unable to attain that. With Piledriver due out next year, boasting at least 10 - 15% performance gains at the core level it seems to me that AMD plans to aggressively address the shortcomings of this architecture. My only concern is whether or not a 15% improvement at the core level will be enough to close some of the gaps we've seen here today. Single threaded performance is my biggest concern, and compared to Sandy Bridge there's a good 40 - 50% advantage the i5 2500K enjoys over the FX-8150.
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This is exactly what I am talking about. AMD has been the king of power consumption and price/performance. This chip is neither good on power or at a price that would make me buy it over a 2500k.

How could you expect this? The single core performance is even down from the previous generation. No one expected that.
clearly agree i didn't expect it to lose out in any categories to the old Thuban. As a Sabertooth990fx owner I'm stumped and am going to chill off my frustration.



Should have never gone amd. Intel is much further ahead in single threaded as well as over all arch. performance
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I suggest everyone give this a good read. It's fully possible that the reviewers might have missed a very important MS hotfix to fix a L1 cache bug.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...64#post4969164
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