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post #411 of 2308
you know, ive been an avid AMD user since 2000 with the 1ghz t-bird cpu....with recent events...I am sadden, and yet strangely happy to move to Intel. AMD better get their asses in line and make better cpus.

This is a smack across the face for the FX line, I mean WTH AMD!!!
    
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I suggest everyone give this a good read. It's fully possible that the reviewers might have missed a very important MS hotfix to fix a L1 cache bug.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...64#post4969164
We were discussing this about a hour ago in the F@H Steam chatroom. We'll see what this yields though. The fix would have to yield massive improvements to really impact what we're seeing in these reviews.
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wow, thanks amd, you just monopolized intel(so much for competitive price drops). and way to go for being a bottleneck on your upcoming gpus, looks like if you want to xfire 7 series you may have to turn away from amd for your rig. a 2600k @ stock is better than the BD @ 4.6. this is epic fail.
    
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i guess my signature quote aint gonna happen :/
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You reading some different reviews?

Based on the reviews in the OP there is absolutely no reason for anyone to buy a bulldozer CPU for anything.
3DMark 11 it kept up with and beat 2500K often... Beat 2500K in Sandra... Also beat 2600K once... 3ds Max 2012... Photoshop CS5.1... Premiere Pro 5.5... Solidworks 2010...ABBYY FineReader... 7zip...Mainconcept 2.2... Handbreak...

So yea... its def not better than 2500K really if you ask me... but in no way does the 2500K "trounce" or "destroy" the 8150 in all cases. There is a market for this, though I think its too small. I think for most people this isn't going to be a good choice over a 2500K. But in cases like those above, its a cheaper alternative to a 2600K while delivering better performance than a 2500K.

So while I agree BD did disappoint in some cases, it shines in others. Its an architecture that will get better with maturity, but for now, AMD needs to work out a few wrinkles.

In my book, getting a CPU from AMD that beats/competes with a 2500K consistently in any type of workload is a good step forward considering the state of affairs before this. But they obviously have some work to do. Lets hope AMD can drop the prices and get llano yields up to make some $$ to get BD/modular arch's where they need em, that way Intel has reason to move.
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I suggest everyone give this a good read. It's fully possible that the reviewers might have missed a very important MS hotfix to fix a L1 cache bug.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...64#post4969164
Its said to be a 3% difference....which makes no difference at all when applied when you look at it overall.
    
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We were discussing this about a hour ago in the F@H Steam chatroom. We'll see what this yields though. The fix would have to yield massive improvements to really impact what we're seeing in these reviews.
Couldn't sleep, thought I'd log back on and see what people were saying.

By the way, this patch was discussed in another thread, either on that board or another, can't remember. It turns out this patch issue doesn't come into play as often as they thought, 3% was the last I heard. So, no, this won't do anything. Running BD on Windows 8 supposedly doesn't really help either.

EDIT: Ninja'd by RotaryKnight.

EDIT2: So much for the Russian benches being bogus. As I said, they were legit. All these reviews are reviewing the 8150, you can at least look at the Russian ones to see how an 8120 performs (basically the same but slower due to lower clocks)
Edited by black96ws6 - 10/11/11 at 10:50pm
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We were discussing this about a hour ago in the F@H Steam chatroom. We'll see what this yields though. The fix would have to yield massive improvements to really impact what we're seeing in these reviews.
Well, that fix, plus PROPER overclocking (assuming NB clocks increase performance on BD like it does on Phenom II)....it could make things a lot more interesting.
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My new Sabertooth 990fx may not have been the best move...
 
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I suggest everyone give this a good read. It's fully possible that the reviewers might have missed a very important MS hotfix to fix a L1 cache bug.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...64#post4969164
This is a good point. After seeing Anandtech's review stating that BD has 2B transistors vs. the ~1B of Phenom II X6, SB, and Gulftown, it just didn't add up. Each BD core should be bigger than Phenom II, meaning integer performance way up and worst-case FP performance in line with Phenom II X4/X6.

Idk. Bit baffled.
 
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