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would the fx8150 be good with running alot of virtual machines since it has 8 cores?
    
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quick question, just woke up to a massive 60 page thread lol and cant afford to read all reviews and all the pages to see if this was answered

did any review actually try to disable 1 core per module so that FX 8150 had 4 "un-shared" threads and see if it overclocked higher?

i'm guessing this approach would not only improve IPC sort of like what windows 8 scheduler will do (check final pages of toms review, 12,7% increase in FPS for WOW) but also cut back on power and heat, allowing more OC headroom

im thinking a 5Ghz 4Core (1-core-per-module) AMD Overdrive profile for GAMING would provide less of an embarassment?

SOMEONE PLEASE TEST THIS (or let me know if someone already has...)
I don't think you can disable a single integer core. Its the whole module or nothing. I would much rather have seen a beastly 4 core with 4 integer 4 FPU unshared resources than a 2 module 4 core, but all chips are the same chip as the 8 cores with modules disabled, but not unlockable.

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Anand's article was a great read. Relatively decent concepts but the fabrication is not there. Maybe Revision 2 will be better.

All in all, a total bust. Another server CPU it seems.
They had a lot of neat ideas and I was rooting for them, but it seems they tried to do too much. Hopefully we will see better results from their CURRENT ideas in their next chips a la Penom -> Phenom II. Its either that or jump ship like Pentium 4 (what its looking a LOT like).

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Whether people have overkill PSUs or not does not excuse the breathtaking load power consumption, especially when OCed. This is a non-starter chip for folders unless they generate their own power or don't pay for it.
Agreed. People being misinformed about their power consumption does not make up for a high power consumption with terrible performance. Low power consumption OR good performance would be OK, but it came with the worst of both...
    
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if AMD was smart they would drop the prices on these cpus by a lot, then scrap their plans to make any better versions of it, and do a complete redesign, and make the phenom II's 32nm or something or just faster or add more cores to them. Just not this...
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if AMD was smart they would drop the prices on these cpus by a lot, then scrap their plans to make any better versions of it, and do a complete redesign, and make the phenom II's 32nm or something or just faster or add more cores to them. Just not this...
You can't just drop something as big as this and "make" new CPUs. New architectures take years of R&D. AMD has probably been working on Bulldozer since 2006 or something...
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if AMD was smart
That went out the window then they decided to continue developing this failbot processor and even release it at the prices they're asking for.
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I just finished making my SB order a few mins ago.
offtopic - what did you go with? mb etc (no idea what mb to be looking at)

back on topic; I actually did find one review that was somewhat positive
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...onclusion.html

didnt look like they tested as well as some places thou - but again pretty much just skimmed the info (so many reviews).
    
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So the previews were accurate. Discrediting them was pointless especially the LAB501 one. It is pretty obvious that AMD has contacted these guys because many of the paragraphs are sugarcoated. It is good to see that some did not lose objectivity :

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There is a silver lining to this. AMD's unlocked FX-8120 is to be priced at around $200 in retail. You noticed we did not spend a lot of time pontificating about the FX-8150? The reason is because, from an enthusiast standpoint, there is simply no reason to buy an 8150

The Guru3D review, as opposed to the HardOCP, blames entirely the software for the poor results. Another AMD intervention, pretty obvious as this is damage limitation yet again. While I agree software is not on par, I do not agree with the fact that Thuban is right there where Bulldozer is. So why the software excuse when the old architecture from AMD does just fine??


From hitechlegion :

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Incredible Multi Threaded Performance
Excellent Price/Performance Ratio
Smooth Working Turbo Core For Speed Boost
Dual Turbo Modes For Increased Boost In Lightly Threaded Apps
Maintains Excellent Temps At Stock Speeds
Black Edition With Unlocked Multiplier
Eight Physical Cores
Easily Achieves High Overclocks
Excellent OC Performance Scaling
Easily Tweaked With AOD For Maximum Performance
Reading this review makes one ask, where is INTEL in all this? It is pretty obvious that AMD is the performance king ... from this review.


The lab501 guys were spot on. AMD has pushed some buttons and the fact that review sites have responded to this is an insult to us as readers. I was very interested in buying a Bulldozer rig but with such photoshoped reviews, I will wait for IVY.
 
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So the leaked benchmarks were real after all. Interresting reviews, readed 6-7 of them
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if AMD was smart they would drop the prices on these cpus by a lot, then scrap their plans to make any better versions of it, and do a complete redesign, and make the phenom II's 32nm or something or just faster or add more cores to them. Just not this...
Agreed. Just make some higher clocked Thuban for the desktop market. Leave the Bulldozer design for servers. Thuban is only about half the transistor count as BD, if they shrink that down to 32nm and maybe improve it's clockspeed a bit (4.5ghz or so stock, 5ghz oc), it'll perform better and be cheaper to make as a desktop CPU.
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You can't just drop something as big as this and "make" new CPUs. New architectures take years of R&D. AMD has probably been working on Bulldozer since 2006 or something...
i call AMD R&D EPIC fail
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