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maybe, just maybe, with so many consumers turning to intel(previous amd fanboys as well) we may still get a price drop.... keeping my fingers crossed. id really like to build a SB rig for folding.
    
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Instead of comparing Bulldozer to Fermi (which was not a flop by any measure), it's much easier to compare it to AMD's Phenom (not Phenom II) or ATI's R600. Bulldozer as a flop lies between those flops.
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Wow, thats a lot of pages really quick, but im more happy than anything. Sure the standard streamlined benchmarks are not that great, about 10%-15% faster than Phenom IIs, but look at the Gaming performance (What i was more concerned with), its fantastic, it matches the 2600K most of the time, and seems to almost always beat the 2500K, when both are OCed, mind you. I am honestly impressed....and look forward to getting my father's 1090T once he buys himself a 8120 or 8150....lol....

Tl;Dr: Bulldozer made up a ton of progress on the gaming aspect, not so much on the other stuff.
Edited by Kevlo - 10/12/11 at 5:02am
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28nm Phenom II x6 or x8 would have been MUCH more financially efficient.

They could have tweaked the architecture to add AVX and some other extensions and left it at that.

They would be compete better with Intels offerings also.

Someone will lose their job over this.

Actually, someone should lose their job over this. Or indeed a whole design team.

They would have been running simulations on this architecture for the past couple of years, so they would have had an idea of the performance.

Its shocking to think they could release something that isn't even competitive with their current products - especially as a 1055T can be had for what, €130?

Phenom II x6 actualyl looks great value for money now, and those craving every last drop of performance will be best sticking with Sandy Bridge.

AMD are damn lucky they bought ATI a few years ago. They would have very little income now otherwise.

They better hope they can string together some deals with OEM's for BD - because its going to sell little or nothing retail.
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Instead of bulldozer, they have released "man with shovel."
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Wow, thats a lot of pages really quick, but im more happy than anything. Sure the standard streamlined benchmarks are not that great, about 10%-15% faster than Phenom IIs, but look at the Gaming performance (What i was more concerned with), its fantastic, it matches the 2600K most of the time, and seems to almost always beat the 2500K, when both are OCed, mind you. I am honestly impressed....and look forward to getting my father's 1090T once he buys himself a 8120 or 8150....lol....

Tl;Dr: Bulldozer made up a ton of progress on the gaming aspect, not so much on the other stuff.
Did you read the same reviews as the rest of us?
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but look at the Gaming performance (What i was more concerned with), its fantastic, it matches the 2600K most of the time, and seems to almost always beat the 2500K, when both are OCed, mind you.
Check again.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/t...x8150-tested/8

It comes dead last pretty often...
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"Pushing the 8120, or 8150, to the 4.6GHz mark takes an extra 200 watts of power at load compared to stock clocks."

While Intel can slap another 2 cores onto an affordable Sandy Bridge if they feel threatened and still have a low power chip, AMD looks like it has some scalability issues with BD...

At the end of the day Sandy is an architecture that has tons of headroom, while bulldozer is pushed to the limit of what is acceptable wattage in a modern CPU. Unfortunately it looks like Intel can sit back and price gouge 6 core chips until AMD has some real competition to a 6 core Sandy, and by the looks of it, this won't come to pass any time soon .
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Wow, thats a lot of pages really quick, but im more happy than anything. Sure the standard streamlined benchmarks are not that great, about 10%-15% faster than Phenom IIs, but look at the Gaming performance (What i was more concerned with), its fantastic, it matches the 2600K nearly all the time, and seems to almost always beat the 2500K, when both are OCed, mind you. I am honestly impressed....and look forward to getting my father's 1090T once he buys himself a 8120 or 8150....lol....

Tl;Dr: Bulldozer made up a ton of progress on the gaming aspect, not so much on the other stuff.
You have to understand that when bulldozer is overclocked, it consumes a massive amount of power. Hardware Canucks overclocked an FX-8150 to 4.6 GHz, and here are their surprising results:

"At these settings, the system is idling at around 195W, but when running the aforementioned Prime95 stress test, it pulls an immense 550W from the socket. If we also add a fully loaded GeForce GTX 460 1GB to the mix, that number spikes up to almost 800W. Obviously, no one runs a CPU and GPU stress tests at the same time, but this does illustrate what the worst case scenario could be when it comes to power consumption."
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We need IBM to step up and release Desktop Consumer Chips. I don't have hope for AMD Engineers or directors.
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