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I feel like Bulldozer is very innovative, definitely has an opportunity to succeed. It just wasn't done and executed properly. Maybe if Intel came up with something like Bulldozer (sharing of resources) it'd do better. I'm just hoping Piledriver will do more than 10-15%, because it if does not, they will NEVER catch up to Intel.
really, intel and amd sharing resources? lets think about it for a second. Intel-from 1st gen i7s to second gen I7s improved performance cut power consumption and also made "top of the line" much more afordable($315). AMD-from phenom IIs to Bulldozer managed to drop in performance and skyrocket power consumption (explain to me how this is green again) and for these changes you have to pay more($90 more than a 1090t, $40 more than a 2500k).

now i ask you. WHO benefits from the two companies sharing resources, hmmm?
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really, intel and amd sharing resources? lets think about it for a second. Intel-from 1st gen i7s to second gen I7s improved performance cut power consumption and also made "top of the line" much more afordable($315). AMD-from phenom IIs to Bulldozer managed to drop in performance and skyrocket power consumption (explain to me how this is green again) and for these changes you have to pay more($260).

now i ask you. WHO benefits from the two companies sharing resources, hmmm?
Lol good one.
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No, this is AMD's Netburst. It's slower (in some cases) than the Thuban and uses more power. The only advantage is it clocks higher.
Great comparison, sums this up nicely.
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I still don't understand all the doom and gloom... for workstations BD works fairly well... often beating a 2500K in highly threaded tasks and sometimes competing with a 2600K, for less money. So in these workloads it performs between the 2500K and 2600K and is priced between them but closer to the 2500K in which it loses to easily in single thread performance...

What we all need, is to hope that AMD gets single threaded performance up, gets power consumption under control and then increases 10-15% above its multi-threaded performance... THEN it will compete... but that will be no easy task.

So while for gamers and most regular people, BD isn't looking like a great CPU... for those who want workstations though, its got decent price/performance that will likely get better once AMD lowers their prices a little after launch...

Though not a great CPU, it has potential. It hit a home run in some cases, but tripped on its own feet in others... Just too bad it trips in the cases I wanted it for most... Might go llano in the new year then... or just get a cheap Thuban when the prices drop even more... I miss the old 1090T I had
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im sticking with my 2600k, faster, and i like intel lol
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Hmm AMD is still the underdog. What else is new. At least they can finally beat Core 2 at least.
Not necessarily.

"The novel Bulldozer design of the FX-8150 seems to be light on performance per core, as our image editing test shows. This test is single-threaded, and the FX-8150 fared extremely poorly with a stock-speed score of 887. To put that into context, a Core 2 Duo E6700 is 13 per cent faster and a Core i5-2500K is almost twice as fast as the FX-8150 in this kind of situation."

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...8150-review/11

Kind of sad when bulldozer fails to beat a dual core cpu released in 2006.
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Overclocking is going to be hell with these chips. If I were AMD I would be working on the power draw problem now, not in 3 years time.

They are basically handing Intel the mobile market on a platter.
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the 2600K and 2500K trounce it. and price to performance a 955 slaps it around pretty good too. and over the next year AMD has Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge Extreme to look forward to... i should by intel stocks.
    
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Not necessarily.

"The novel Bulldozer design of the FX-8150 seems to be light on performance per core, as our image editing test shows. This test is single-threaded, and the FX-8150 fared extremely poorly with a stock-speed score of 887. To put that into context, a Core 2 Duo E6700 is 13 per cent faster and a Core i5-2500K is almost twice as fast as the FX-8150 in this kind of situation."

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...8150-review/11

Kind of sad when bulldozer fails to beat a dual core cpu released in 2006.
Well overall. Taken as a whole, Bulldozer chips looks to be on par and slightly faster than Core 2's, especially when overclocked.
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really, intel and amd sharing resources? lets think about it for a second. Intel-from 1st gen i7s to second gen I7s improved performance cut power consumption and also made "top of the line" much more afordable($315). AMD-from phenom IIs to Bulldozer managed to drop in performance and skyrocket power consumption (explain to me how this is green again) and for these changes you have to pay more($90 more than a 1090t, $40 more than a 2500k).

now i ask you. WHO benefits from the two companies sharing resources, hmmm?
I'm afraid you didn't quite get what I meant. What I was saying was, if Intel made an architecture quite like Bulldozer where there is a sharing of resources (like the FPU) within the CPU itself they could probably pull it off better.
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