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yes they could have, and do you think they would have gotten any less hate?
This way they have released a new Architecture and are innovating.

Also, something else, has anyone else thought about when the Athlon 64s were first released, and they didn't have the best performance from the start but once things were optimized a little bit, they dominated Intel. Perhaps things haven't been optimized in the Windows Kernel or programs to fully utilize Bulldozer. Just a thought.
nope it was instant domination once the first athlon 64's released.
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It really isnt that huge of a fail though guys. For those of you building BF3 systems, you want this processor lol:


I have to agree. With a multi threaded future in mind, this thing will be sweet. But right now, at this very moment. Most are hardly 2, let alone 4 threads. I hope this changes in the near future or BD just came too soon.
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Bahaha AMD fail.
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Oh hey now, after months of speculation, rumors, and a lot, seriously a lot, of gossip AMD today finally puts an end to all that. Yes, the all new AMD FX series processors are released today -- octacores for the win my man, octomom will be pleased alright .... guru3d.com
i lol'ed
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it was better earlier
Only thread I've seen with more people at once was the news thread about Creative suing the kid that fixed their Vista drivers, and the drivers he had changed had shown that Creative intentionally disabled many of their sound cards so they could blame Vista and get customers to buy their newest sound cards.

Ah, nostalgia. I'm not even sure this link is the original thread that started it all:
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...all-glory.html
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It really isnt that huge of a fail though guys. For those of you building BF3 systems, you want this processor lol:
[IM G]http://www.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/review/2011-10-10/bf3.jpg[/IMG]
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[IM G]http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/13182343781D3JFR9LiH_2_3.gif[/IMG]
Anyone buying any 8-core CPU for gaming is downright silly in the head. Your argument is invalid.
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Wow, thats a lot of pages really quick, but im more happy than anything. Sure the standard streamlined benchmarks are not that great, about 10%-15% faster than Phenom IIs, but look at the Gaming performance (What i was more concerned with), its fantastic, it matches the 2600K most of the time, and seems to almost always beat the 2500K, when both are OCed, mind you. I am honestly impressed....and look forward to getting my father's 1090T once he buys himself a 8120 or 8150....lol....

Tl;Dr: Bulldozer made up a ton of progress on the gaming aspect, not so much on the other stuff.
Exactly. All of these intel fanboys are blah blah blah flop, yet these BD CPUs' are, undeniably, AMD's fastest CPUs ever.
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Did you read the same reviews as the rest of us?
I've been wondering if you guys were also reading the same reviews.

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Check again.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/t...x8150-tested/8

It comes dead last pretty often...
The hell it does. But I suppose it's easier for people to believe that. Although you all might want to take a closer look at [H]'s game testing results. At a 200 MHz lower OC , the BD chip (4600MHz) beat out even the OC'd i7 2600K (4800MHz) in 2 of the 3 games tested.

But I suppose it's easier to jump on the BD bashing bandwagon.

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are you kidding me? the 8150 @ 4.6 bottlenecks a single gtx 580, it has horrible gaming performance. the phenom II 980 BE at stock clocks beats the bulldozer @ stock clocks in gaming. im not too sure about your reading ability, or maybe your just one of those 'sees/hears what they want to' kinda individual.
I think you're the one that's only focusing on the negative reviews and synthetic benchmarks that mean about squat in real world performance. Why not look at some realworld testing. How's about this handbrake Video encoding test? It always beats out the 2500K which has a 200MHz higher OC.
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really, intel and amd sharing resources? lets think about it for a second. Intel-from 1st gen i7s to second gen I7s improved performance cut power consumption and also made "top of the line" much more afordable($315). AMD-from phenom IIs to Bulldozer managed to drop in performance and skyrocket power consumption (explain to me how this is green again) and for these changes you have to pay more($90 more than a 1090t, $40 more than a 2500k).

now i ask you. WHO benefits from the two companies sharing resources, hmmm?
Intel has always stuck it to AMD. Intel is and has always been shady. When they decided on resource sharing, intel would always give AMD incomplete or bogus information. While AMD was forthright and honest.



As I said before, it's without a doubt that BD is AMD's fastest CPU to date. You can't deny it. Sure is single threaded apps it's not the greatest, but those are going to go by the wayside.

It also seems that a lot of the reviews contradict each other. In some, it shows BD doing very well against Intel in terms of encoding, and others it shows it performing very poorly.

However, I will say that I believe some of the reviews aren't performed correctly. I mean BD supports 1866MHz RAM, yet, even OC'd (not extreme) they're running it at 1600MHz. Secondly, like the Hardware Canucks review, they're using RipjawsX RAM, which is specifically designed for SB.

There's a lot of inconsistencies, and ways of skewing results. I mean 3 sticks of RAM in one test? Really?

From the most part I can tell, that BD appears to be good for encoding and decent for gaming. It was eluded to in many reviews that Windows 7 and it's scheduler could very well play a big part in BD's poor performance, and it was said that this should be rectified in Windows 8. I also believe that once programs are optimized for it, then BD will show a marked improvement over its current results. Which in all honesty aren't bad, just not as good as some people had hoped.
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I have to say, it does depend on price. If they price this right it'll still be a good CPU. Right now it's ridiculous but a 100USD price drop will make it a reasonable. chip, and yes, it will have to be 100 before it's worth anything.

The other thing is that this is just a paper launch. AMD might not release these chips for retail but wait until the architecture's been fine-tuned in a few years
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I have to say, it does depend on price. If they price this right it'll still be a good CPU. Right now it's ridiculous but a 100USD price drop will make it a reasonable. chip, and yes, it will have to be 100 before it's worth anything.

The other thing is that this is just a paper launch. AMD might not release these chips for retail but wait until the architecture's been fine-tuned in a few years
TigerDirect has them on sale now grasshopper. Check the Deals board.
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cant wait for bulldozer shellshockers @ newegg
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